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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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I have been exclusively using a .so domain for about 10 years and never experienced any of these issues. What specific network blocks it?

You can see a bunch of users reporting this issue in the link the user above posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/Notion/comments/f6x9mk/why_the_so_d...

I don't see any mentions of who's actually blocking it, just some guys work and a VPN provider.

There isn't any indication the blocking is worse than most other TLDs.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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You wonder why there is any filtering on sms ...

Because spam really is that rampant. There aren't that many communication systems with a small search domain of user ids where anyone can send and receive messages from anyone by default.

Makes sense, but then they just blacklist entire TLD, it's a bit weird.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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The reality of Internet filtering and firewalls, and a rule generalisable to any attempt at control and autonomy, is that the effect-to-effort ratio matters. The principle of a small effort with a large result is behind the architecture of every switch, gate, door, valve, or dam. New generic TLDs have the disadvantage of being recently unleashed. There are no venerable sites on XYZ, or its siblings. Much of what's re…

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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

> Ironically, Google Voice also has the same behavior with abc.xyz.

This is my new mini-favorite thing. It feels a bit like a redux of "Shirt without stripes" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22925087)...

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

#115

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

I wish the Telco's did MORE filtering given the huge amount of SMS spam I get since Twilio has turned this channel into a positive ROI for spammers.

(1st biggest spam channel being email, which surprise/surprise - Twilio also dominates via SendGrid)

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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I have this same problem with "obscure" .net domains. My text messages are silently dropped. The only work around I found is to not include http:// , just use the bare domain. Personally, I find this behavior of my SMS provider reprehensible.

I ran into this recently even on Facebook Messenger. A friend of mine was hunting for a short domain name and I had a list of some three character .net and .org domains I recently had found that were available. Cut and pasted the list and the message wouldn't send. Narrowed it down to one. Typed just the bare domain. Wouldn't go through. (It was something incredibly benign like n17.org) Couldn't find a history on tha…

If it was N26, that's a European bank so I could see similar domains being used in phishing scms.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

Related thing from the past.. Gmail once had a bug(?) where if you sent any email containing a URL with the domain starting "0x", it would go straight to spam. I imagine it was a rule hard coded to block the use of hexadecimal long IP URLs, but it also picked regular domains starting 0x. It was fixed a few years ago.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Most of these new TLDs are just the .biz of the present moment. I went to email whitelist a decade ago and haven’t looked back.

.biz was a new TLD, so yeah. It was part of the 2000 round of new TLDs. I don't think I've seen a .museum, but all of the others from that round give me negative vibes, although I guess slightly less than most of the newer new tlds.

That said, I've got a 'clever' .pictures I use to share images and a totally appropriate .fun that has no need to have positive domain associations.

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