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A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Love it, kudos! This is great for developers and others who Just Need Answers and not shopping or entertainment. If you're looking for feedback, both from a UI design and utility standpoint, you might consider "inlining" results from selected sites, e.g. Wikipedia, stacked change, etc. Having worked on search for a long time, inlining (onebox etc) is a big reason users choose Google, and that channelers fail to get t…

If Google starts showing interesting text-heavy links instead of vapid listicles and storefronts, I have accomplished everything I ever could dream of.

Haha, reminds me exactly of this.

https://xkcd.com/810/

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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I've basically never been taken to a recipe without a rambling preamble from Google. While food blogs may serve two audiences, a long introduction seems to be a requirement to appear in the top Google search results.

Personally, I think that has a lot more to do with the fact that Google killed the Recipe Databases. There did used to be a few startups that tried to be Recipe Aggregators with advertising based business models, that would show recipes and then link to source blogs and/or cookbooks, and in the brief period where they existed Google scraped them entirely and showed entire recipes on search results and ate their ad re…

That is a really bad thing by Google. Their core business is not recipes.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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What "fundamental redeeming quality" about uninstalling AIM from Windows 3.x motivated making that the 3rd result for "dog"? The 5th result is a tutorial on CSS. This search engine decided it's relevant because it has "dog" in the URL. Is that a better reasoning than Google's? https://htmldog.com/guides/css/beginner/ Core Web Vitals ranks sites higher that perform well. Text-heavy sites that are also optimized and re…

What are you searching for when you enter the query "dog", keeping in mind the search engine deliberately does not examine synonyms or and deliberately seeks out the path less taken? Dog facts? Then search "dog facts" Famous dogs? Then search "famous dogs" Rappers? Try "snoop dogg"

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Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Yeah so this is my project. It's very much a work in progress, but occasionally I think it works remarkably well for something I cobbled together alone out of consumer hardware and home-made code :-)

It's very rare that I see a project on HN I can see myself using. This is one. Like others have said, the results can be a little rough. But they're rough in a way I think is much more manageable than the idiosynchrosies of more 'clever' search engines.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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What "fundamental redeeming quality" about uninstalling AIM from Windows 3.x motivated making that the 3rd result for "dog"? The 5th result is a tutorial on CSS. This search engine decided it's relevant because it has "dog" in the URL. Is that a better reasoning than Google's? https://htmldog.com/guides/css/beginner/ Core Web Vitals ranks sites higher that perform well. Text-heavy sites that are also optimized and re…

What are you searching for when you enter the query "dog", keeping in mind the search engine deliberately does not examine synonyms or and deliberately seeks out the path less taken? Dog facts? Then search "dog facts" Famous dogs? Then search "famous dogs" Rappers? Try "snoop dogg"

I'm searching for information on "dog".

Your suggestion of "dog facts" returns 6 pages from the same domain, dogquotes.com. It's unreadable on mobile because it's so old, all the facts are unsourced, and often wrong:

> Never assume that a barking dog won't bute [sic], unless you're absolutely certain the dog believes it too.

Also on the 1st SERP, this odd blog post ranting about 4th amendment rights [1], "Media Glamorization of the Psychopath" [2], and this (image-heavy) page about dolphin encounters in the Bahamas ("Sea Dog Facts" is a link on the page).

    1. http://www.rexcurry.net/drugdogsdan.html
    2. https://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/articles/psychology/psychopathysociopathy/media-glamorization-of-the-psychopath/
    3. https://www.dolphinencounters.com/education/

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Yeah so this is my project. It's very much a work in progress, but occasionally I think it works remarkably well for something I cobbled together alone out of consumer hardware and home-made code :-)

is there a json endpoint ? I'd love to make an emacs bridge :)

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Wow, that's awesome. Great work! For a simple test, I searched "fall of the roman empire". In your search engine, I got wikipedia, followed by academic talks, chapters of books, and long-form blogs. All extremely useful resources. When I search on google, I get wikipedia, followed by a listicle "8 Reasons Why Rome Fell", then the imdb page for a movie by the same name, and then two Amazon book links, which are totall…

Imagine if you were looking for the movie.

?q=imdb.com:fall of the roman empire
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