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Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by jasonhansel »

mc32 wrote: post #4

Any time you have kids with parents who put them under the care of authority figures you’re setting up a stage for abuse of trust and power. Abusers seeks these positions of trust and exploit them. [edit Penn State] and Sandusky, the Olympics, the Catholic Church, other religious orgs, schools, etc. There needs to be more oversight and kids need a better reporting environment while also protecting good people from ‘r…

> while also protecting good people from ‘revenge’ unsubstantiated accusations

It's important to note that such accusations are incredibly rare, and that the presence of multiple accusers (as in the Larry Nassar case) leaves little room for doubt.

Of course there have been cases of false allegations of crimes against children (as in the Satanic panic), but those were due to mishandled interrogations of young children, not to adults attempting "revenge."

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by scns »

mc32 wrote: post #4

Any time you have kids with parents who put them under the care of authority figures you’re setting up a stage for abuse of trust and power. Abusers seeks these positions of trust and exploit them. [edit Penn State] and Sandusky, the Olympics, the Catholic Church, other religious orgs, schools, etc. There needs to be more oversight and kids need a better reporting environment while also protecting good people from ‘r…

Saving face at all costs may be a reason, keep up the outer appearance and do business as usual. Cowardly, makes me sad when i think about it.

(edit) Well, i guess it is better for the own career, rocking the boat seems to be frowned upon a lot. Maybe we need to create an atmosphere where dissent is allowed instead of ostracized? Where people are fine with differing opinions. Where we can accept differences. And do the right thing when it is needed. Is it our biological wiring that disagrees? The dog-eat-dog scarcity mindset? The conservative "As long as my car is bigger than the neighbours everything is fine." frame?

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by tru3_power »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #13
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #3

I watched a video the other day of a geologist talking about the fact that the hardest thing she had to deal with when working in Antarctica was the way her thesis advisor acted. And since she needed a letter from him to proceed then his threat of "you'll never work in science again" had some basis in reality. She talked about how deeply it impacted her but that she only reported when her 3 year old daughter said she…

The parallels we see in abusers across cultures and institutions likely indicates that this is a dark face of human behavior that needs extreme mitigation strategies (there are documented cases in essentially every institution with a power structure). There are a lot of ways forward that will improve the lives of children, the biggest hurdle is getting adults to listen and then implement.

My take on this is we need to raise people to know that it’s OK to question authority.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by swinnipeg »

mc32 wrote: post #4

Any time you have kids with parents who put them under the care of authority figures you’re setting up a stage for abuse of trust and power. Abusers seeks these positions of trust and exploit them. [edit Penn State] and Sandusky, the Olympics, the Catholic Church, other religious orgs, schools, etc. There needs to be more oversight and kids need a better reporting environment while also protecting good people from ‘r…

To place blame more accurately Sandusky was Penn State (not Notre Dame).

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by [deleted] »

mc32 wrote: post #4

Any time you have kids with parents who put them under the care of authority figures you’re setting up a stage for abuse of trust and power. Abusers seeks these positions of trust and exploit them. [edit Penn State] and Sandusky, the Olympics, the Catholic Church, other religious orgs, schools, etc. There needs to be more oversight and kids need a better reporting environment while also protecting good people from ‘r…

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Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by lotsofpulp »

yhoneycomb wrote: post #18
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #3

I watched a video the other day of a geologist talking about the fact that the hardest thing she had to deal with when working in Antarctica was the way her thesis advisor acted. And since she needed a letter from him to proceed then his threat of "you'll never work in science again" had some basis in reality. She talked about how deeply it impacted her but that she only reported when her 3 year old daughter said she…

Medical residency for newly graduated medical doctors is another academic training program where abuse runs rampant. Basically, the residency program owns you for at least 3 years (often more) and the only protection you have is that you can’t work over 80 hours per week averaged over a 4 week period (gee, thanks). The issue is that people are afraid to report their hours accurately because if they do the program dir…

> If you’re dismissed, you can’t work as a doctor. No one will hire a doctor without residency training. You’re completely screwed.

I thought you needed to complete residency to get a license to practice as a doctor (reimbursable by CMS). Hence, of course no employer will hire you as a doctor because they would not get paid for your work.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by micromacrofoot »

temp8964 wrote: post #6

> FBI Director Chris Wray made no excuses and said the bureau had fired one of the agents who had falsified the details of Maroney's 2015 interview about the abuse. I remember there was another FBI agent falsified evidence in Trump investigation. Found it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/kevin-cline... Now Durham is going to charge a former federal prosecutor of making a false statement to the F.B.I.…

If you trust high level law enforcement then you don't know high level law enforcement. They wrote a suicide letter for MLK in the 60s... and 50 years later not much has changed. It's been rotten since day 1 and somehow we keep trusting them to solve their own problems.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by Consultant32452 »

mc32 wrote: post #4

Any time you have kids with parents who put them under the care of authority figures you’re setting up a stage for abuse of trust and power. Abusers seeks these positions of trust and exploit them. [edit Penn State] and Sandusky, the Olympics, the Catholic Church, other religious orgs, schools, etc. There needs to be more oversight and kids need a better reporting environment while also protecting good people from ‘r…

It should be a requirement that every public school classroom is live streamed so the parents can watch. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy between a government employee and children.

University endowments, the crystallization of privilege, should be seized and distributed as reparations. There is very little value in these places besides the maintenance of power and economic hierarchy.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by scns »

temp8964 wrote: post #20
scns wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is somehow comforting (in a strange way) to read that these people got caught and are being brought to justice.

What kind of logic is this? The people got caught did get caught. It does not indicate all of them got caught. Also, those people got caught for falsifying one piece of evidence, but it does not mean they only did once in their career. There are just too many things can’t be verified anymore.

Well, there are so many examples of people getting away with what they did, to read the opposite gives a counterweight to the doubting of justice.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Post by mberning »

istjohn wrote: post #2

Wow, the FBI's failure here is astounding. > The FBI's investigation into Nassar started in July 2015, after USA Gymnastics President and CEO Stephen Penny reported the allegations to the FBI's Indianapolis field office. > That office, then led by Special Agent in Charge W. Jay Abbott, did not formally open an investigation. > The FBI only interviewed one witness - Maroney - several months later, in September 2015. I…

They won’t investigate child abuse but they will hatch a plot for a soft coup, a domestic terrorist kidnapping plot, or send a dozen agents to investigate a garage door rope.
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