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Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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All these stories about power/sex abuse sound so similar. It always seems a ton of people knew and did nothing to stop it. Reading about this guy was like reading about Jimmy Savile or Harvey Weinstein.

Here's another one that blew me away even though I come from a family of doctors and nurses:

Medical Students Practice Pelvic Exams on Anesthetized Women Without Consent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3tuV8TJHT8

(the video is a non-sensationalist review of literature on the topic)

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Wow, the FBI's failure here is astounding. > The FBI's investigation into Nassar started in July 2015, after USA Gymnastics President and CEO Stephen Penny reported the allegations to the FBI's Indianapolis field office. > That office, then led by Special Agent in Charge W. Jay Abbott, did not formally open an investigation. > The FBI only interviewed one witness - Maroney - several months later, in September 2015. I…

This makes me very sad. How do these individuals look in the mirror? How do they justify the compensation for their work? Why did they do nothing to protect these girls from a predator?

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I watched a video the other day of a geologist talking about the fact that the hardest thing she had to deal with when working in Antarctica was the way her thesis advisor acted. And since she needed a letter from him to proceed then his threat of "you'll never work in science again" had some basis in reality. She talked about how deeply it impacted her but that she only reported when her 3 year old daughter said she…

The parallels we see in abusers across cultures and institutions likely indicates that this is a dark face of human behavior that needs extreme mitigation strategies (there are documented cases in essentially every institution with a power structure).

There are a lot of ways forward that will improve the lives of children, the biggest hurdle is getting adults to listen and then implement.

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> FBI Director Chris Wray made no excuses and said the bureau had fired one of the agents who had falsified the details of Maroney's 2015 interview about the abuse. I remember there was another FBI agent falsified evidence in Trump investigation. Found it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/kevin-cline... Now Durham is going to charge a former federal prosecutor of making a false statement to the F.B.I.…

It is somehow comforting (in a strange way) to read that these people got caught and are being brought to justice.

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I watched a video the other day of a geologist talking about the fact that the hardest thing she had to deal with when working in Antarctica was the way her thesis advisor acted. And since she needed a letter from him to proceed then his threat of "you'll never work in science again" had some basis in reality. She talked about how deeply it impacted her but that she only reported when her 3 year old daughter said she…

>It did make me wonder about how we could restructure academia/society so that random individuals don't have so much power over other people. It seems like a recipe for disaster.

Never work in a job you're not prepared to quit.

The people who talk about their harrowing experiences have had a lot of less harrowing experiences that should have made them quit much earlier if they weren't living in a fairy tale.

I saw it first hand when the head of my school, a woman, started berating me for trying to get into a more 'prestigious' program than the one I was in at the time. The whole meeting was so weird I started asking around for career prospects of high energy physics - two months later I dropped out and moved to be a quant and saved myself a wasted 20s.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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I watched a video the other day of a geologist talking about the fact that the hardest thing she had to deal with when working in Antarctica was the way her thesis advisor acted. And since she needed a letter from him to proceed then his threat of "you'll never work in science again" had some basis in reality. She talked about how deeply it impacted her but that she only reported when her 3 year old daughter said she…

> It did make me wonder about how we could restructure academia/society so that random individuals don't have so much power over other people. It seems like a recipe for disaster.

Transparency. People in power intent on abusing it can only be disincentivized by the possibility of being outed. Hence why I think it should be legal to record any audio you are privy to. There are far too many places with all party consent laws about recording audio, which only serve to help those with power take advantage of those without power.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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Wow, the FBI's failure here is astounding. > The FBI's investigation into Nassar started in July 2015, after USA Gymnastics President and CEO Stephen Penny reported the allegations to the FBI's Indianapolis field office. > That office, then led by Special Agent in Charge W. Jay Abbott, did not formally open an investigation. > The FBI only interviewed one witness - Maroney - several months later, in September 2015. I…

It certainly seems like this agent was wildly negligent in his duties but I wonder if part of the slow and insufficient response might have been induced by the way in which the CEO handed over the complaint. One of the hallmarks of this case seems to have been large amounts of willful ignorance of the part of USA gymnastics leadership. I wouldn’t be surprised if less than 100% of the full import of the accusations made it across to the FBI from the CEO. Of course the FBI ideally should investigate everything professionally and thoroughly no matter the framing and how powerful the people involved are...

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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I watched a video the other day of a geologist talking about the fact that the hardest thing she had to deal with when working in Antarctica was the way her thesis advisor acted. And since she needed a letter from him to proceed then his threat of "you'll never work in science again" had some basis in reality. She talked about how deeply it impacted her but that she only reported when her 3 year old daughter said she…

Medical residency for newly graduated medical doctors is another academic training program where abuse runs rampant.

Basically, the residency program owns you for at least 3 years (often more) and the only protection you have is that you can’t work over 80 hours per week averaged over a 4 week period (gee, thanks).

The issue is that people are afraid to report their hours accurately because if they do the program director will meet with them and ask, “sooo it seems like you’re not as efficient as the other residents [who are all lying to evade the ire of higher-ups]. You really need to work on that, or else you might need to be held back or even dismissed.”

If you’re dismissed, you can’t work as a doctor. No one will hire a doctor without residency training. You’re completely screwed.

There was a resident anesthesiologist at the University of New Mexico who was allegedly raped by her boss. She reported it to the program and was dismissed. She later settled a lawsuit for only 800k, essentially two years worth of salary as an attending (fully-trained) anesthesiologist and she likely only saw less than 100 or 200k of that after lawyers fees, taxes, and paying off her medical school loans (mine are 350k, and that’s only because COVID has stopped the 7% compounded interest rate).

She now teaches anatomy at a community college because no one will accept her into their residency program.

And then people wonder why many doctors lack empathy. It’s hard to have empathy when you’ve been essentially tortured for years until your spirit has broken. Hurt people hurt people.

Re: Simone Biles condemns U.S. Olympic Committee, FBI for sex-abuse crisis

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> FBI Director Chris Wray made no excuses and said the bureau had fired one of the agents who had falsified the details of Maroney's 2015 interview about the abuse. I remember there was another FBI agent falsified evidence in Trump investigation. Found it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/kevin-cline... Now Durham is going to charge a former federal prosecutor of making a false statement to the F.B.I.…

It is somehow comforting (in a strange way) to read that these people got caught and are being brought to justice.

What kind of logic is this? The people got caught did get caught. It does not indicate all of them got caught.

Also, those people got caught for falsifying one piece of evidence, but it does not mean they only did once in their career. There are just too many things can’t be verified anymore.

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