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Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by hrbf »

karussell wrote: post #328

OT: a cookie banner showed up and after I agreed it stated "preparing your Cookie preferences can take minutes". And it took indeed very long (a minute?), I was even able to do a screenshot: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/129644/133563621-6... What a time ...

> Some opt-outs may fail due to your browsers cookies settings. If you would like to set opt-out preferences using this tool you must allow third party cookies in your browser settings.

This has got to be the most obnoxious cookie banner created to date. Also, have you checked their “required cookies”? Most likely one giant GDPR violation.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by lxgr »

markozivanovic wrote: post #330
karussell wrote: post #328

OT: a cookie banner showed up and after I agreed it stated "preparing your Cookie preferences can take minutes". And it took indeed very long (a minute?), I was even able to do a screenshot: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/129644/133563621-6... What a time ...

If you turn on all the cookies, and press apply, it's finished immediately!

What a wild coincidence!

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by karussell »

markozivanovic wrote: post #330
karussell wrote: post #328

OT: a cookie banner showed up and after I agreed it stated "preparing your Cookie preferences can take minutes". And it took indeed very long (a minute?), I was even able to do a screenshot: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/129644/133563621-6... What a time ...

If you turn on all the cookies, and press apply, it's finished immediately!

Oh, indeed ... and it is reproducible. Maybe they review your NSA track history manually in case you say 'No' to the cookies.

(btw: loading the widget itself took over 7 seconds)

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by matmatmatmat »

mercutio2 wrote: post #151
mabbo wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My perception of American designed and engineered vehicles is that they’re really awful, not just from a reliability standpoint but also from a user interface standpoint. For about 18 months in 2017 and 2018, I had a job that had me in a new city every other week. Lot of rental cars. And I started to have very strong preference. I would go out of my way to get a Chevy. Great Android auto integration. Good controls…

I own a Bolt. I loathe GM's software. With a flaming passion. Like, I will never buy another GM vehicle. The infotainment system crashes about once a week. It will come back in 10 minutes or so, but nothing I've done has ever managed to make it decide to reboot faster than that. The radio turns on. All the time. Over and over again. I literally never want the radio on. I only want CarPlay to ever play audio. GM seems…

I have the same complaint about the Bolt's radio. It seems the issue is that pressing the power button merely mutes the radio. If you can figure out how to actually turn off the radio when the car is on, it doesn't turn back on when the car is turned on.

The infotainment in mine also sometimes will not boot for a good 5-10 minutes. Why. I don't know.

Otherwise, I love the damn thing and wish it weren't a giant fire hazard.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

karussell wrote: post #328

OT: a cookie banner showed up and after I agreed it stated "preparing your Cookie preferences can take minutes". And it took indeed very long (a minute?), I was even able to do a screenshot: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/129644/133563621-6... What a time ...

On Firefox, you need the following addons

* I don't care about cookies (which will remove all cookie banners; but I think uBlock Origin can also do it with the right list)

* Cookie AutoDelete (to delete all cookies as soon as you close the tab)

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by hoseja »

awesomeusername wrote: post #317
beamatronic wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not ridiculous but it does lead to this conclusion: That there is probably a single optimal "skateboard" type design. Manufacturers are converging on this anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboard_(automotive_platfor... Then the real truth that no one wants to hear, is that there is no need for so many different types of passenger vehicles.

It's astonishing how similar all cars are becoming, outside of the superficial stuff. For a reason. Convergence on the optimal solution.

They are also optimizing for superficial appeal to customer, not 100% functionality.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by theodric »

RickJWagner wrote: post #263
MrFoof wrote: post #153

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Yep. Moreover, the issue isn't new cars today. You know when you saw that old Chrysler Grand Caravan burning on the side of the road, and you hear the story that the person has been holding it together solely with thoughts and prayers and maybe $500 between tires and oil for the last 7 years of its 19 year life? That's the current inevitability. I'm not worried about someone's 6-month old Bolt or 2-year old Model 3.…

I kind of hope that gets to be an (infrequent) problem. As it is, I've lately been wondering about what happens to 14 year-old electric cars with dead batteries that cost more than the car is worth.

People like me buy them for $500 and put the motor in a grass kart

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Post by Hamuko »

tialaramex wrote: post #266
inside65 wrote: post #144

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How is it safer for a car to catch fire in your garage while you're asleep? This is clearly the more dangerous situation.

Safer than being in a car which is on fire . That's what we're comparing here.

Safer if you don't expect the person to get out when they see black smoke and flames coming from under their hood. Cars don't usually catch fire explosively.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Post by FartyMcFarter »

Robotbeat wrote: post #262
Animats wrote: post #42

Maybe lithium-ion batteries in mass-market vehicles aren't such a good idea. We may need a battery technology that can survive poor maintenance less than perfect battery construction, and low-cost vehicle designs. Tesla had to put a titanium plate under their battery. That's not a mass-market solution. BYD is converting over to lithium iron phosphate, which is much better behaved when damaged. Toyota is working on so…

Tesla already uses lithium iron phosphate for some Model 3s as it's cheaper (not more expensive like you claim). And Tesla has basically already solved the fire problem through careful engineering, and other carmakers will figure this out as well. But also, car fires happen all the time. They're just normal and so don't get to the news. My grandfather died in a gasoline fire (which can happen a lot faster).

> And Tesla has basically already solved the fire problem

Have they? So why did a Tesla Model S Plaid (a new car) catch fire while being driven just a few months ago?

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/7/2/22560662/tesl...

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Post by bildung »

beambot wrote: post #302
thescriptkiddie wrote: post #241

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In Germany they are very serious about vehicle inspections, and insurance requirements.

Didn't the big German auto manufacturers literally develop the hacks to bypass diesel emissions inspections? I'm not sure I'd hold anyone up in a pedestal on this score...

Those have nothing to do with each other: Germany indeed has a company level corruption problem (especially in combination with the conservative party), but pretty low corruption at the citizen level, i.e. where vehicle inspections happen.
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