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Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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Agree. The challenges are still real in that with enough of these you'll lose people (just like you do in airplanes occasionally) but this is a pretty significant moment. I haven't seen any mention of any "science" they are going to do which was a late add to the qualification list for astronaut, and it was really apparent the difference between having access to the NASA deep space network vs not having that access.…

We don't know the public price of Inspiration4, but the $62m list price of Falcon 9 does not include Crew Dragon, which is a substantially more expensive vehicle to operate.

True, although NASA paid for Crew Dragon but not for the refurbishment to fly it again. The news channels were stating "$200M" for the whole thing and I don't find that particularly credible.

I reminded one of my adult children that when I was their age I paid nearly $5,000 for a computer that had specs that were not even close to one that you can buy for $35 today. Perhaps more comparable air travel became 10x cheaper over the first 40 years.

The thing that excites me most about this is that Congress isn't the one funding this work[1]. As a result SpaceX is motivated to make it more economical and more efficient. What I read about as a kid in the 70's about moon bases and orbital hotels, SpaceX is actually on a path to make real. I only hope that before I die I can ride into orbit.

[1] Yes they buy launch services from SpaceX, but they have been buying such services for decades, SpaceX was the first company that decided to be commercial rocket company from the start, AFAICT.

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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The altitude is really interesting, showing that Crew Dragon is higher than both the Hubble and the ISS. They really want to show that, yes, there is no doubt, these people are in space and not just high altitude.

It took everything the shuttle had to get to the Hubble, so it is an interesting choice for an orbit. I'm guessing it was a check box on some SpaceX "can we do this" type of list.

Shuttle went slightly higher than this mission. Apparently there are plans to send Crew Dragon as high as 1200 km.

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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I don't know, the bravery and courage it took for the "guests" to join this ride inspired me to donate to St. Jude. If it had just been billionaires (and a token scientist or aspirational astronaut), I may have agreed with your jaded opinion.

I don’t see why anyone involved in this being a billionaire is relevant at all. Billionaire is thrown about as an insult these days. I don’t understand why being done by a very successful person detracts from the achievement. Isaacman has built a business that provides valuable services and employs a thousand people paying them a decent wage to do useful work. There’s nothing bad about that, but he’s talked about as…

> Billionaire is thrown about as an insult these days.

There are plenty that believe the very existence of billionaires suggests an obscene imbalance in our system of capital. (I happen to agree.)

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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post #52

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The altitude is really interesting, showing that Crew Dragon is higher than both the Hubble and the ISS. They really want to show that, yes, there is no doubt, these people are in space and not just high altitude.

It took everything the shuttle had to get to the Hubble, so it is an interesting choice for an orbit. I'm guessing it was a check box on some SpaceX "can we do this" type of list.

They not only got above Hubble’s orbit, they even returned the first stage back to landing, which means they had the performance both to get to that orbit and to be reusable.

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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And the 100 million he donated to St Jude Childrens Hospital? Or the 220 million target for donations during the flight? I do not understand how some people can be such a wet blanket. This is history. Civilians, further out from Earth than anyone has been in 20 years...and they were able to buy a ride. This is the beginning of commercial space flight. It's the equivalent of driving a gold spike in the Transcontinenta…

It also now means we have a record for number of humans in space. https://mobile.twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1438298978454360064

slight nuance, but record number of people in orbit, not space. When virgin galactic was in space, the total number was higher (16).

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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Live tracker https://www.spacex.com/dragon-tracker/index.html

Can't really see much of Earth at the same time with that altitude. Wouldn't have paid for that. Hope we soon have much higher missions (>GEO).

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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I don’t see why anyone involved in this being a billionaire is relevant at all. Billionaire is thrown about as an insult these days. I don’t understand why being done by a very successful person detracts from the achievement. Isaacman has built a business that provides valuable services and employs a thousand people paying them a decent wage to do useful work. There’s nothing bad about that, but he’s talked about as…

> Billionaire is thrown about as an insult these days. There are plenty that believe the very existence of billionaires suggests an obscene imbalance in our system of capital. (I happen to agree.)

Some degree of concentration of capital is good. It helps fund long-term projects.

Re: Live: SpaceX to launch four civilians to orbit in mission known as Inspiration4

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My comment will be a bit meta, but when I watch these things I have to say I typically enjoy the SpaceX streams much more than the others launching rockets. The amount of stuff I'm interested in hearing... or just sounds from the launch pad and no talking... tends to be in significantly higher proportion on SpaceX streams than any of the others. They don't completely escape the PR blather, but it seems to be tolerabl…

SpaceX is a rocket company run by one of the world's biggest nerds, and has a loving following of mega-nerds. Of course us HNers feel at home watching them work.
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