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Tesla FSD Beta 10 veers into pedestrians with illegal right turn

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Re: Tesla FSD Beta 10 veers into pedestrians with illegal right turn

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Post by gpm »

benjaminjackman wrote: post #6
nodesocket wrote: post #2

2021 Model Y Owner. Hard to tell, but it looks like that street is a one-way heading right which is legal. However, not yielding for pedestrians is no bueno though they were just barely off the sidewalk into the street when it turned.

There is sign on the wire near the traffic light that says no turns, not sure if it only applies to the other lane though.

There's also a sign on this half of the traffic wire that looks like it might be saying "yes turns" (low resolution, but I can't imagine what the sign says with an arrow pointing right other then that)

Re: Tesla FSD Beta 10 veers into pedestrians with illegal right turn

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Post by gpm »

bagels wrote: post #8
obilgic wrote: post #3

Misleading/Exaggerated HN title. Not an illegal turn. No turn sign applies to the left lane, and it's a one way street

Agree, it didn't hit anything, even though it might've without intervention. "into" is the misleading part.

Right, and it didn't "veer" either, it performed a normal turn.

The pedestrians had just started crossing, so it was in the wrong, but barely. It's the sort of manoeuvre that you see human drivers do all the time.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta 10 veers into pedestrians with illegal right turn

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Post by nodesocket »

benjaminjackman wrote: post #6
nodesocket wrote: post #2

2021 Model Y Owner. Hard to tell, but it looks like that street is a one-way heading right which is legal. However, not yielding for pedestrians is no bueno though they were just barely off the sidewalk into the street when it turned.

There is sign on the wire near the traffic light that says no turns, not sure if it only applies to the other lane though.

Ahhhhh I see the no right turn sign on the pillar. That is confusing as there are also one-way signs (with arrows pointing to the right) further along.

Moral of the story, do you think most humans would do a better job at this intersection than the Tesla did?

Re: Tesla FSD Beta 10 veers into pedestrians with illegal right turn

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Post by Alupis »

gpm wrote: post #11
benjaminjackman wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is sign on the wire near the traffic light that says no turns, not sure if it only applies to the other lane though.

There's also a sign on this half of the traffic wire that looks like it might be saying "yes turns" (low resolution, but I can't imagine what the sign says with an arrow pointing right other then that)

That sign says "One Way". Not "yes turns"... I don't think I've ever seen a sign saying that, actually, it's either "No Turns" or no sign at all, since by default turns are allowed.

Re: Tesla FSD Beta 10 veers into pedestrians with illegal right turn

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Post by codechicago277 »

Remember this is the build that Elon Musk said was almost ready for public release and would “blow your mind”, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1435967157662150675?s=20

But there have been plenty of failures, and remember that the only people who have the beta are employees who are presumably under an NDA, and devoted fans who have publicly said they don’t want to post the disengagements because critics “take them out of context”

Other failures:

https://twitter.com/28delayslater/status/1437866328950517768...

https://twitter.com/BS__Exposed/status/1437367617468129280?s...

https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/status/1437385266046586890?s=...

https://twitter.com/bagguley/status/1437328015789367297?s=20

https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/status/1437405124004089863?s=...

https://twitter.com/BS__Exposed/status/1437043592560791552?s...

https://twitter.com/bagguley/status/1437048381042475008?s=20

https://twitter.com/BS__Exposed/status/1436806907663159299?s...

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