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Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England

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Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England

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Deaths 21 days or more after second dose: .89% Percent of all Covid Deaths That seems like great news?

Certainly. I am a bit disappointed by the “involving” qualificator, as it does not inspire much confidence on its meaning…

But overall, very positive results, certainly.

Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England

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Deaths 21 days or more after second dose: .89% Percent of all Covid Deaths That seems like great news?

I don't think this is a particularly interesting stat without a baseline of what % of people fell into that category. Since this is computed over the time period January 2 to July 2 and mass vaccination didn't really take off until the spring, you wouldn't have a large number of people in that category until near the end of the study period.

Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England

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There is a bit of a statistical artifact here: the number of person-days of people with both doses in the UK is very small during this period. Most adults had no doses or one dose for most of this period.

Vaccination is still great and I encourage everyone who can to get vaccinated, but the 640 people is drawing upon a much smaller population and time period.

Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England

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Deaths 21 days or more after second dose: .89% Percent of all Covid Deaths That seems like great news?

Certainly. I am a bit disappointed by the “involving” qualificator, as it does not inspire much confidence on its meaning… But overall, very positive results, certainly.

Defined in the glossary. It seems to mean where the person had an active covid infection at time of death, and excludes people who recovered from covid but died anyway.

Re: Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England

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Deaths 21 days or more after second dose: .89% Percent of all Covid Deaths That seems like great news?

I don't think this is a particularly interesting stat without a baseline of what % of people fell into that category. Since this is computed over the time period January 2 to July 2 and mass vaccination didn't really take off until the spring, you wouldn't have a large number of people in that category until near the end of the study period.

I think you need to read it again. Especially table 1.

In the data they have they found that:

1. For all unvaccinated people, they had 38,964 covid-related deaths and 65,170 of other, non-covid-related deaths of unvaccinated people.

2. For all vaccinated people 21 days or more after second dose they found 458 covid-related and 57,263 non-covid-related deaths.

It doesn't matter when these were recorded (unless we want to account for Delta, but there is not enough data for this here).

So unless we are seeing huge increase in non-covid-related deaths of vaccinated people, this data suggests that vaccination makes it many, many times less likely that you are going to die of covid as compared to you dying to other things.

Which I think is wonderful news to see in actual numbers from a large sample of data gathered over longer period of time.

If that's is not a clear indication to you then I don't know what is.

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