wsj.com is not a trustworthy news source and should not be posted.
Why do you say that? Content here seems pretty reasonable most of the time.
Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
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Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#22Part of the problem is a lot of people enjoy the anger.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#23> Company researchers discovered that publishers and political parties were reorienting their posts toward outrage and sensationalism. That tactic produced high levels of comments and reactions that translated into success on Facebook. This is why The Daily Wire and other such outrage aggregators are consistently on Facebook's Top 10. Not coincidentally, it's also been the source of fuel for the anti-vaccine movement…
And don't get me started on how Twitter consistently pushes those "influencers" on the left to the top of the trending feed. "Duty to Warn", "Palmer Report", "Gravel Institute", "BrooklynDad", and others. In many ways I feel like those smug hot-takes are even more corrosive than what the Daily Wire does.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't the constant flamewars push people away from Facebook, thereby reducing engagement in the long run? I quit Facebook several years ago because I honestly just didn't like the experience. It was miserable and I didn't enjoy going to it any longer. I have the phone numbers of my closest friends and family, why wouldn't I just call or text when I want to talk to them?
Apparently most people don't work that way. Or at least it drives up engagement up until a person-specific breaking point.
My guess is that they've determined what that breaking point is and have optimized for it.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#25> Company researchers discovered that publishers and political parties were reorienting their posts toward outrage and sensationalism. That tactic produced high levels of comments and reactions that translated into success on Facebook. This is why The Daily Wire and other such outrage aggregators are consistently on Facebook's Top 10. Not coincidentally, it's also been the source of fuel for the anti-vaccine movement…
Exactly, you can probably add Washington Post, CNN and The New York Times to the list. If not for the continuous lies and “outrage engineering” by mainstream media BLM riots wouldn’t have happened and hundreds of small businesses wouldn't have been destroyed in 2020, not to mention all the innocent people injured and killed for fake political cause.
Facebook and other social media are definitely partly responsible for the outrage culture and divisiveness plaguing the country.
But I assume it’s a difficult problem for algorithms to detect political agenda, as it seems to pervade every aspect of news these days.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#26It all comes down to every PM's favorite metric: engagement . When users get into a heated flamewar, that's high-engagement. So you want to do everything you can to ensure that the most possible users get sucked into flamewars. I feel like this should be banned, but it's unclear what the best approach would be. Mandating chronological feed order?
> it's unclear what the best approach would be. Mandating chronological feed order?
I'd use the laws around tobacco as a framework.
Ban the opening of social media accounts for children under 13; restrict it for adolescents. Ban marketing for social media over a certain size (the caveat to preserve the threat of new entrants). Require warning labels; for minors, the warning should be attested to by a parent or guardian.
Require public disclosure of any sorting, filtering and moderation algorithms and policies. Require a public comment period for modifications to the foregoing. Require open access to researchers, where Facebook retains data control but let researchers query it (subject to oversight).
Let users tosue social media platforms for damage they intentionally or negligently cause. Create a fund social media companies must contribute a fraction of revenue to which subsidies mental-health services for people harmed by their social media use.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#27Part of the problem is a lot of people enjoy the anger.
This ^^^!!! People are, or can be, total garbage, especially when they're behind a keyboard and not face-to-face.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#28For how long will articles like these hit the FP? When does it stop being news? Will it ever change? I wonder from which year the 'first' of articles like these is.
Usenet moderation debates? probably before that. Perhaps the "editors" columns of society journals.
If i recall, there were some laws about what could be printed shortly after printing presses began to proliferate that went beyond "don't say anything bad about lawmakers or the church" and ventured into early libel/slander by attempting to say "dont be controversial". which is pretty much what everyone is wishing for now, when they're demanding various forms of censorship and filtering performed pre-consumer.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Am I in the super-minority if I say I've unfollowed about 80% of my FB friends? I've never seen a political or outrage post in the last 3 years since I just unfollowed everyone but my closest friends and family.
I did that too. Until I realized most of the group that remained overlapped with friends/family I communicated with in Telegram, WhatsApp and SMS chats. So there was no point to keeping a Facebook account. Addition/edit: Furthermore I closed my account because I truly and sincerely believe that mass social media has a more negative impact on society than addiction, untreated mental illness, and all forms of abuse (ch…
That was my experience as well. Facebook was just reduced to people I talked to on other channels every week, so I ended up not logging on to Facebook anyway. When GDPR rolled in and Facebook asked to accept the updated terms and conditions I just clicked "no" and Facebook told me that I'd have to close my account.
Re: Facebook tried to make its platform a healthier place, but it got angrier
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Am I in the super-minority if I say I've unfollowed about 80% of my FB friends? I've never seen a political or outrage post in the last 3 years since I just unfollowed everyone but my closest friends and family.
yeah I unfollow people who moan about politics and stuff constantly. I am here for the life updates and the vacation photos thank you!
My experience was that people stopped posting around 2014/15. After that people only liked and shared stuff.