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Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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>"The phenomenon of Apple releasing a feature that supplants or obviates third-party software is so well known that being Sherlocked has become an accepted term used within the Mac and iOS developer community" TIL.

I think “Fluxxed” would have been a better term. Really captures the spirit of the thing.

Flux was sherlocked, to be sure, but sherlocked has been around as a term since 2002 or so, while f.lux was a much more recent victim, from 2015 or so.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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This is dumb I still think the high barrier of entry is good for the App Store. Let Apple call the shots, let the developers who are concerned focus on a different platform if they become that worried that developing for Apple devices is high risk, if it reaches a fever pitch Apple will adjust, if not then it’s probably not a big enough problem. Unlike in healthcare I think it’s reasonable in this environment to sacr…

The App Store doesn't have a high barrier of entry. The barrier is low and completely based on whatever Apple's product strategy is at the moment. Sometimes also based on arbitrary feelings from Apple execs like Phil Schiller.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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I wish the plaintiffs luck in court. I remember apples courtroom privateering where they persuaded the justice system they invented rounded corners and got their competitors phones pulled from the market. If only the same standards and rigor of enforcement could actually apply to them. Once all is said and done I suspect whatever apple has to pay will not meaningfully impact their profitability, and will be seen as a…

For reference[1]. Apple also managed to cause lasting damage to HTC as a brand when they ventured into the US. I don't HTC ever recovered from that, although it might not have been the only problem they had. [1] https://morningconsult.com/opinions/apple-v-samsung-scotus-s...

Seems like small pickles compared to Android brands damaging themselves by not supporting their own devices with software updates after 18 months.

That is what drove me away. I assume this is still true, and my iOS devices will receive software updates for longer than Android devices.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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>> When Eleftheriou rejected Apple, it refused to remove copycat and scam apps from the App Store. I agree that scam apps should be removed, but why did he expects copycats to be removed?

If they infringe on his intellectual property rights they must normally be removed, I assume.

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Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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So why has there never been a horde of torches and pitchforks outside Castle Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo yet? And don’t squeeze out that “cOnSoLeS aReNt cOmPuTeRs” bullshit. They’re closer to computers than a goddamn wristwatch.

It's a good point, but consoles were single purpose computers. They exist to play games. Now, I'll agree that the line is blurred these days, but they're still generally gaming machines. Nobody is buying an XBox to stream Netflix solely. I think the difference is that Apple wants people to buy these devices as your primary computing device. Are you OK when Apple locks down the Mac line? What if you couldn't use Brew…

It's not so much about copycat games per-se but about the ability to run whatever software you want on a device that you own, and in that respect those games consoles are quite good representations of the walled garden concept.

In fact, the 'general purpose computer' will historically be seen as some kind of very stupid aberration, who ever thought that giving end users that kind of power was a good idea? /s

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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So why has there never been a horde of torches and pitchforks outside Castle Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo yet? And don’t squeeze out that “cOnSoLeS aReNt cOmPuTeRs” bullshit. They’re closer to computers than a goddamn wristwatch.

It's a good point, but consoles were single purpose computers. They exist to play games. Now, I'll agree that the line is blurred these days, but they're still generally gaming machines. Nobody is buying an XBox to stream Netflix solely. I think the difference is that Apple wants people to buy these devices as your primary computing device. Are you OK when Apple locks down the Mac line? What if you couldn't use Brew…

> Are you OK when Apple locks down the Mac line? What if you couldn't use Brew to install open source software?

I’ve wondered about this for a while. After about 2015 when the MBP was steadily losing features and gaining problems I was certain that my next machine couldn’t be a Mac. I was certain that the Mac would be rapidly becoming a glorified iPhone.

The trick is, I don’t know where to draw that line. One thought about jumping ship to Linux full time, but I haven’t been able to trust the setup. I’ve heard Windows with WLS is good, but haven’t tried it.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Unless they can establish theft of IP, I don’t think that Eleftheriou has any chance to win on the grounds of monopolistic behavior. Apple can claim that they were developing for years the feature and did not release it for UX reasons. Apple also does not charge for the app, so consumers were not harmed.

I think that spotify has a much stronger case, given the fact that apple is selling a directly competing service with an obvious price and bundling / integration advantage

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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You’ll be surprised to know that Apple is quite fine with keyboards using network access. That is literally why the “Full Access” switch exists. Without it, the keyboard is fully sandboxed. It can receive input from the container app, but nothing can get out. It is surprisingly a user choice, something Apple will rarely give up on iOS. The rejection was only because the app existed on the Apple Watch, and it was only…

The rejection was because Apple never allowed keyboard apps on the watch. The idea of bringing a full keyboard to the watch isn't exactly the groundbreaking innovation many people here are acting like it is. Do people really think Apple stole the idea from this guy?

You're missing the point.

They rejected his app while going ahead and releasing a clone. Why?

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