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Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

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Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

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What impact does this tire have on car mileage?

Adjusting inflation pressure is a feature. I run my tires higher than the vehicle recommendation but still below the sidewall limit for improved fuel economy. Airing down for sand is a thing too.

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

#83
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>Through its Vision Concept, the company wants to make tires that are airless, rechargeable, connected, and sustainable. 1) airless, check. 2) rechargeable ?? 3) connected ?? 4) sustainable ??

5) diverse

...and then you've got something.

I'm actually surprised that I've never seen a tire with some kind of closed-cell super lightweight foam, some kind of aerogel maybe. I suppose the problem in that case is that you can't spread heat throughout the whole interior.

Which makes me wonder, how do they radiate heat on this Michelin? Does it stick around the outer surface and that's it? Do the 'spokes' bear it away somehow?

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

#84

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Not for me. But I'm running uBlock Origin with Javascript disabled. It rendered perfectly.

Then how did you reject the cookies?

I think they aren't allowed to use the tracking cookies before you've given permission.

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

#85

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Rechargeable: Adding tread. Connected: Reports tread status and configuration, e.g. to inform the driver that he should change to a winter tire tread. Sustainable: Recycled and recyclable.

>Connected: Reports tread status and configuration, e.g. to inform the driver that he should change to a winter tire tread. That sounds like everything that's terrible about printer ink but with the decimal moved once to the right. I can imagine a world where your tires stop working because you had them re-treaded with a tread pattern or the OEM won't honor a warranty item because you didn't use an approved brand of…

Your printer running out of ink does not have an associated risk of death and injury. Tire wear does.

Existing air-filled tires are already "connected" on modern vehicles - pressure sensors that link to the vehicle's on-board diagnostics and inform the driver of low pressure, often before there's any other visible, audible, or mechanical indication that the tire has a leak.

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

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What impact does this tire have on car mileage?

Adjusting inflation pressure is a feature. I run my tires higher than the vehicle recommendation but still below the sidewall limit for improved fuel economy. Airing down for sand is a thing too.

That will likely increase wear and decrease traction. What's happening is that the contact patch is getting narrower and the sides of the tread aren't helping support the weight as much.

I worked in a tire shop, and chronic overinflation caused tires to go bald in the center of the tread while the sides had tread left. Have to replace them more often then.

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

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Then how did you reject the cookies?

I think they aren't allowed to use the tracking cookies before you've given permission.

That depends on jurisdiction. In the U.S. there are plenty of sites that opt you in, and either allow you to reject or don't but link to their privacy policy (which then might say "we don't care about your privacy").

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

#88
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>Connected: Reports tread status and configuration, e.g. to inform the driver that he should change to a winter tire tread. That sounds like everything that's terrible about printer ink but with the decimal moved once to the right. I can imagine a world where your tires stop working because you had them re-treaded with a tread pattern or the OEM won't honor a warranty item because you didn't use an approved brand of…

Don't forget fridges: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28478438 Will single tyres e-mail you singularly or as a group? I mean: Hi, I am your left front tyre and wished to tell you how ... or: We, the tyres of your car, have determined that ...

Personally I welcome our new Tyrius Cybernetics Corporation overlords.

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

#89
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>Through its Vision Concept, the company wants to make tires that are airless, rechargeable, connected, and sustainable. 1) airless, check. 2) rechargeable ?? 3) connected ?? 4) sustainable ??

5) diverse ...and then you've got something. I'm actually surprised that I've never seen a tire with some kind of closed-cell super lightweight foam, some kind of aerogel maybe. I suppose the problem in that case is that you can't spread heat throughout the whole interior. Which makes me wonder, how do they radiate heat on this Michelin? Does it stick around the outer surface and that's it? Do the 'spokes' bear it aw…

In the off-road motorcycle industry there are these tubes called mousse bibs. I run them on all my bikes. They do replace the inner tubes, not the tires themselves. But they work great and are the best anti-flat solution out there. They sound similar to what you’re talking about. Michelin makes them too.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-bib-mousse-tire...

Re: Michelin's airless tires are scheduled for market launch in 2024

#90

The concept looks interesting, but I wonder what will happen when a car or trailer with these drives a road with snow / and or grit? The open structure looks perfect for launching anything that will go into the slots into other traffic.

There's a video on how it performs in snow. https://michelinmedia.com/site/user/files/44/MNA342_Uptis_Sn...

I don’t think this video shows how it performs in snow if we consider usage beyond a parking maneuver.
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