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Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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I believe "Sherlocked" is the term used.

Sherlock was never blocked. Just cloned. Edit: Watson was name. See child comment.

Seems quite meta that the term for this was taken from Apple's software. Sherlocked effectively means replaced and forgotten.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Aptly put by the author: See you in court @Apple https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1437845736951992321

They're about to get two scoops of California Soul: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Unfair_Competition_...

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless this guy had a patent, any offer is a good offer. It’s not a terribly complicated feature to do from scratch and it does logically belong to the OS. Blocking it from the store was an ass move, if it indeed happened as described and there’s no hidden context.

These excuses just keep getting funnier. App developers: make sure you file your patents, or else its YOUR fault if Apple decides to participate in blatant 90s style Microsoft anticompetitive behavior.

There are enough swiping keyboards around now that it would be tricky to get any patent on it surely? Definitely seems like a dick move but "tech company copies good feature that isn't legally protected" is not exactly uncommon in this industry, if anything it's encouraged by most consumers

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive I really don't know how anyone can see this sort of crap and say they're against regulations. The market obviously isn't fixing itself, do you have any other solution?

Whats the point of market fixing itself in this situation? "Market fixing itself" describe relationships between consumer and supplier. In this case "consumer" is better off so seems like market works as intended. Developer's being f-ed over is sad thing but unless the situation for developers is so bad that they abandon App Store in troves then nothing will fix anything. Also one could argue that overall situation i…

> In this case "consumer" is better off so seems like market works as intended.

How is the consumer better off when a choice for them has been removed? If Apple's keyboard is superior, then consumers will automatically chose that and not buy this guy's software. How is this "nanny state" behaviour by Apple justified?

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Very typical of Apple, using opaque approval procedures. They're acting like bullies because they didn't get what they wanted and because they have the money/power to do so. Apple wanted to buy FlickType but they didn't agree on the price or Eleftheriou didn't want to sell (I doubt it), and so from then onwards started the downhill ride. I fully support Eleftheriou on this just for the principle, but if I were in his…

> just so that we could all be happy right now

To be honest, I'm quite happy about big companies revealing their ugly real face. And some people might benefit from such a reality-check.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Very typical of Apple, using opaque approval procedures. They're acting like bullies because they didn't get what they wanted and because they have the money/power to do so. Apple wanted to buy FlickType but they didn't agree on the price or Eleftheriou didn't want to sell (I doubt it), and so from then onwards started the downhill ride. I fully support Eleftheriou on this just for the principle, but if I were in his…

> I fully support Eleftheriou on this just for the principle, but if I were in his place I would have agreed at a very large sum from Apple (even lower from what I had in mind) just so that we could all be happy right now ;-)

Seems like Apple has a very anti-competitive position, no?

To me this goes all the way back to the walled garden argument. Apple sat on, what some may consider, a straw man arguing that they couldn't deliver security to their customers without it. Fast forward all these years and Apple's walled garden seems to be failing rather regularly for the trifecta of their: users, developers and the system in general. Users get less choice in the app store when Apple wants to compete directly, developers with good ideas who aren't willing to sell out to Apple will pay the price of their livelihood drying up over night if you don't give Apple what they want and finally we get things like no-click zero days on a routine basis these days.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Apple is pulling a Lotus/Excel maneuver, except at least Lotus was still allowed to run on Windows at the time.

at least Lotus was still allowed to run on Windows at the time

Microsoft did not have a way to block Lotus from running on Windows at the time (other than intentionally breaking their system calls, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10432608).

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive. Not sure what the conclusion should be here. On one side this runs on Apple platform:"it is my platform, I rule it". On the other hand, they have a de-facto position to abuse by just kicking out companies at will to enlarge their businesses and monoplolize them... I wish there was choice beyond Apple and Android. I am myself starting to look f…

> I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive I really don't know how anyone can see this sort of crap and say they're against regulations. The market obviously isn't fixing itself, do you have any other solution?

I see it another way: It's already got regulations to protect powerful people. Either remove those, or grant protections to everyone else, too.

What those people are really saying is that the regulations that exist are the ones they want, and no more.

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