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Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by mhh__ » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:32 PM UTC

caslon wrote: post #23

Loic wrote: post #10

iBooks was also a rip-off, let us kill the nice work of a developer.

Ah, yes, reading documents on a computer. A keyboard. Both of these are things that have never been done outside of the Apple ecosystem before Apple made their copies. I don't like Apple, but come on. Reading documents is what computers have historically proven best at, and a keyboard is a pretty logical extension of any given electronic device. Would sure save everyone a lot of time if these things were built in.

Is an iPhone the same as an Android? They're both phones after all?

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by p2t2p » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:32 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #52

germandiago wrote: post #36

I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive. Not sure what the conclusion should be here. On one side this runs on Apple platform:"it is my platform, I rule it". On the other hand, they have a de-facto position to abuse by just kicking out companies at will to enlarge their businesses and monoplolize them... I wish there was choice beyond Apple and Android. I am myself starting to look f…

> I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive I really don't know how anyone can see this sort of crap and say they're against regulations. The market obviously isn't fixing itself, do you have any other solution?

Whats the point of market fixing itself in this situation?

"Market fixing itself" describe relationships between consumer and supplier. In this case "consumer" is better off so seems like market works as intended.

Developer's being f-ed over is sad thing but unless the situation for developers is so bad that they abandon App Store in troves then nothing will fix anything.

Also one could argue that overall situation is pretty-pleasing for everyone, apps that do not go into Apple's territory (system stuff) seem to be thriving and don't complain too much.

I'd rather them not to regulate it because they start with Apple and end up killing shareware and everything else. Who knows what kind of crazy stuff they'll invent for open source, can they outlaw it? I'd rather them to not even start.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by tomtimtall » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:32 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #66

mfrw wrote: post #64

Aptly put by the author: See you in court @Apple https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1437845736951992321

Does the author stand a chance against the army of ivy league lawyers of a trillion dollar megacorp? I guess it would help if he's also American (don't know where he's from) so he could fight Apple on home turf and use the jury system on his side like "Evil megacorp steals from the little guy" (does it even work like this in the US or did I watch too many movies?), but I'm more curious how a lawsuit would go if he'd…

I think no, but that army matches on quite a large load of cash, so they’ll likely offer him a settlement agreement which means he “losses” but gets paid.

Not fair by any account, but I think that’s what is likely to happen.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by mhh__ » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:32 PM UTC

thought_alarm wrote: post #8

Alternatively, Apple prevented people from wasting their money on a feature that was about to be built into the OS.

So "Think different" is now "You can't handle the truth"?

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by scns » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:33 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #66

mfrw wrote: post #64

Aptly put by the author: See you in court @Apple https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1437845736951992321

Does the author stand a chance against the army of ivy league lawyers of a trillion dollar megacorp? I guess it would help if he's also American (don't know where he's from) so he could fight Apple on home turf and use the jury system on his side like "Evil megacorp steals from the little guy" (does it even work like this in the US or did I watch too many movies?), but I'm more curious how a lawsuit would go if he'd…

We will only know if they try. Their lawyers may be handsomely rewarded if they win. Justice may be blind, we will see.

Disclaimer: Sorry for postvac ramblings

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by mhh__ » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:33 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #52

germandiago wrote: post #36

I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive. Not sure what the conclusion should be here. On one side this runs on Apple platform:"it is my platform, I rule it". On the other hand, they have a de-facto position to abuse by just kicking out companies at will to enlarge their businesses and monoplolize them... I wish there was choice beyond Apple and Android. I am myself starting to look f…

> I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive I really don't know how anyone can see this sort of crap and say they're against regulations. The market obviously isn't fixing itself, do you have any other solution?

But I get a warm fuzzy feeling if the market does fix itself!

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by nautilus12 » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:33 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #66

mfrw wrote: post #64

Aptly put by the author: See you in court @Apple https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1437845736951992321

Does the author stand a chance against the army of ivy league lawyers of a trillion dollar megacorp? I guess it would help if he's also American (don't know where he's from) so he could fight Apple on home turf and use the jury system on his side like "Evil megacorp steals from the little guy" (does it even work like this in the US or did I watch too many movies?), but I'm more curious how a lawsuit would go if he'd…

One thing recent history has taught us is that Ivy Leagues are very good at pumping out individuals that know how to win at all costs, with 0 regard for actual expertise or moral compass.

Ivy Leagues serve the purpose of giving individuals the minimal artifacts of knowledge and virtue to get ahead, without its actual substance.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by mhh__ » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:34 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #66

mfrw wrote: post #64

Aptly put by the author: See you in court @Apple https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1437845736951992321

Does the author stand a chance against the army of ivy league lawyers of a trillion dollar megacorp? I guess it would help if he's also American (don't know where he's from) so he could fight Apple on home turf and use the jury system on his side like "Evil megacorp steals from the little guy" (does it even work like this in the US or did I watch too many movies?), but I'm more curious how a lawsuit would go if he'd…

Probably not.

They will however probably end up settling. Take the money and wait for legislation.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by codemusings » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:35 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #66

mfrw wrote: post #64

Aptly put by the author: See you in court @Apple https://twitter.com/keleftheriou/status/1437845736951992321

Does the author stand a chance against the army of ivy league lawyers of a trillion dollar megacorp? I guess it would help if he's also American (don't know where he's from) so he could fight Apple on home turf and use the jury system on his side like "Evil megacorp steals from the little guy" (does it even work like this in the US or did I watch too many movies?), but I'm more curious how a lawsuit would go if he'd…

I mean at the very least there could be a settlement since Apple most likely doesn't want to cause even more bad PR. But who knows.

Re: Apple blocked the FlickType Watch keyboard then announced a clone of it

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Post by germandiago » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 12:36 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #52

germandiago wrote: post #36

I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive. Not sure what the conclusion should be here. On one side this runs on Apple platform:"it is my platform, I rule it". On the other hand, they have a de-facto position to abuse by just kicking out companies at will to enlarge their businesses and monoplolize them... I wish there was choice beyond Apple and Android. I am myself starting to look f…

> I am against regulations but I still find these practices anticompetitive I really don't know how anyone can see this sort of crap and say they're against regulations. The market obviously isn't fixing itself, do you have any other solution?

then the topic would shift to who regulates the regulator.

And there are very EVIL incentives in having regulators. More free market is a way better solution.

I agree it is a shitshow.But it is also true that these companies created products. What does a regulator do? Regulate and having incentives to regulate in certain directions (come on we all have seen that). However they bring zero value to people (unlike Apple, for example, with all its defects)

There are sooo many absurd regulations that prevent people from building businesses or even working that Ithink we should start there. And later, and only later talk aboutthe rest.

Just my two cents.