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Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Post by z3ncyberpunk » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 6:23 PM UTC

WoahNoun wrote: post #127

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #21

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I'll take the eccentric billionaire actually tackling real issues and making actual headway. People here are too narrow minded and have quarter to quarter short term memory disorder, seeming to forget that Musk and Tesla are the sole reason we have had the progress and momentum towards actually greener technologies, not simply greenwashed corporate nonsense that was churned out year after year without any was actual…

Amazon has invested 10's of billions into wind farms, solar farms, hydrogen fuel cells, electric/hydrogen vehicles, etc.

Cool and that tens of billions that you claim they dumped into research has done absolutely almost nothing for anyone at all. We don't have Amazon wind farms we don't have any Amazon solar panels and battery packs hooked up to our houses we don't have any EV cars from Amazon. We have a richer centric billionaire making really crappy low earth orbit rockets and stealing everyone's money.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Post by z3ncyberpunk » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 6:24 PM UTC

hellbannedguy wrote: post #177

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #21

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I'll take the eccentric billionaire actually tackling real issues and making actual headway. People here are too narrow minded and have quarter to quarter short term memory disorder, seeming to forget that Musk and Tesla are the sole reason we have had the progress and momentum towards actually greener technologies, not simply greenwashed corporate nonsense that was churned out year after year without any was actual…

Bezos making the world greener? His big trucks deliver a few packages daily to one, or two, households. Those electric fleet commercials seem like PR BS. If I ever do see an electric truck barreling up my street; I bet they will be heavily subsidized by our tax money in the form of credit. What is he doing that's green? That cowboy hat was pure ego, and vanity. Two bald men on a carnival ride might not be good for hi…

I love when people complain about how Tesla receives tons of government subsidies, ALWAYS neglecting to mention that they're dropping the bucket compared to what the other gasoline car manufacturers get in subsidies every year...

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Post by z3ncyberpunk » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 6:25 PM UTC

marricks wrote: post #37

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #21

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I'll take the eccentric billionaire actually tackling real issues and making actual headway. People here are too narrow minded and have quarter to quarter short term memory disorder, seeming to forget that Musk and Tesla are the sole reason we have had the progress and momentum towards actually greener technologies, not simply greenwashed corporate nonsense that was churned out year after year without any was actual…

I'm sorry but better energy storage and electric cars for the middle class isn't going save us. It's not progress, it's a distraction along the way to ecological collapse.

You're right it's going to be the industrial level where we're actually going to feel the effects, so i think I will still go with the person who's making a giant electric gigafactory to make electric cars not polluting entirely everything.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Post by z3ncyberpunk » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

FridayoLeary wrote: post #119

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #21

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I'll take the eccentric billionaire actually tackling real issues and making actual headway. People here are too narrow minded and have quarter to quarter short term memory disorder, seeming to forget that Musk and Tesla are the sole reason we have had the progress and momentum towards actually greener technologies, not simply greenwashed corporate nonsense that was churned out year after year without any was actual…

>not simply greenwashed corporate nonsense Isn't Musk the guy who crashed bitcoin after making a pile of money claiming it was dirty? How much pollution does just one of his mega-sized moon-mission rockets eject? Just for his personal (yes) entertainment. Rich sportsmen buy expensive cars. Super- rich businessmen play with rocket launches.

About the same if not less pollution than every other rocket that's launched into space... For a fraction of the cost plus we get to reuse the materials.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Post by WoahNoun » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 5:29 AM UTC

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #271

WoahNoun wrote: post #127

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Amazon has invested 10's of billions into wind farms, solar farms, hydrogen fuel cells, electric/hydrogen vehicles, etc.

Cool and that tens of billions that you claim they dumped into research has done absolutely almost nothing for anyone at all. We don't have Amazon wind farms we don't have any Amazon solar panels and battery packs hooked up to our houses we don't have any EV cars from Amazon. We have a richer centric billionaire making really crappy low earth orbit rockets and stealing everyone's money.

I didn't say it was research. Those billions went into wind and solar farms that are generating GWs of electricity right now.

You can see a map of their global wind and solar farms here: https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/environment/the-cloud