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Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by pram »

jrockway wrote: post #76
blowski wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what will I be able to do with that performance bump? I use a tablet mostly for taking notes, email and looking at websites. I can’t see how the former can get any quicker. The latter is slow mostly because of the websites themselves. Will games or office apps get faster or have new possibilities?

Apple has kind of disappointed me with the software situation on iPads. I have an iPad Pro that I use as a laptop, but the reality is that the processing power available is underused. It has a 120Hz screen, but websites can't render to the canvas at 120Hz. There is no CAD software (which is nice when you design something and head to your makerspace to actually manufacture it -- I just print plans out on paper, but it…

I agree in general, but it really depends. The iPad port of Clip Studio for example is literally, 100% the desktop version. I mean exactly, it has the top bar menu (file/edit etc) and everything.

Most of the other painting applications like Procreate have no real desktop equivalent either. From an art perspective, the iPad is at or ahead of the desktop experience. There are digital artists right now who have had 100% of their career on an iPad.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by mint2 »

EGreg wrote: post #89
defaultname wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single company that sells things does this. You are talking about an Apple event and promo page where they are quite literally giving a sales pitch for their new products. That they (over)hype their own products is not only not notable or interesting, it's entirely expected. It is a bit bizarre that your comment, or variations of it, appears for every single Apple release. For those people so jaded and annoyed…

Apple also lies Steve Jobs with his distortion field used to say RISC was better than Intel right up until they switched to Intel, then the story switched. They acted like they invented the omnibox for safari browser… Also they used to tout the size of their phones as perfect, then unceremoniously eliminated that size for nearly a decade (until this year!) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AptLR1gS-Pg

In fairness to the size thing, until last year I was still using the older se and had that form factor since my first smart phone, the iPhone 4.

When I got the 4 it was great. By the time I finally changed the form factor last October, the world had changed and by that I mean much of the web was unusable due to the screen size and how no one optimized for non-phablets.

What’s perfect one year may not be perfect the next because things change. Accounting for an allowance of standard marketing hyperbole on top of that, i don’t see anything particularly wrong with that one claim.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by criddell »

Factorium wrote: post #67

The hardware is great, but the software ecosystem is hamstrung by the 30% commissions for apps.

Despite the 30% commission for apps, it's an incredibly vibrant ecosystem. So much new and interesting software appears on iOS and (to a lesser extent) macOS.

It seems like the more free the platform is, the less interesting it is for users. I'm thinking about iOS, Windows, macOS, Android, game consoles, Linux, and the web.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by AlanYx »

handrous wrote: post #38

Whoa, what's with the huge bezel? My only Mini is a 1st-gen, but that has a tiny bezel on either side, with somewhat larger ones top-and-bottom, and I really like the resulting overall size & proportions. Did the top and bottom bezels shrink a ton so it just looks like the whole thing's bigger all around because they all match now, or did they widen the sides? Looking at the dimensions on WP it looks like the height…

The side bezels on the previous gen were too small IMHO. I ended up putting mine in a case that added a grip on the left hand side. While the device has decent palm rejection, it's never perfect and I find it disconcerting when the only way to hold it from an edge is to cover a portion of the screen. I think it makes sense to make the side bezels slightly larger, though I agree that the proportions of the device are slightly less appealing as a result.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by allenu »

anm89 wrote: post #6

I love how everything has to be a "revolutionary breakthrough" with apple. Wow the 73rd version of the 19th variation of the ipad gets better performance. What a break though.

And each release is "our best camera yet" or "fastest processor yet" or "best battery yet". I mean, yeah, you're probably not going to release an update that has worse performance.

Apple is the master at emphasizing things like this.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by kumarvvr »

themihai wrote: post #47
Causality1 wrote: post #7

iPad mini features an all-screen design half inch bezel on all sides Removing the home button is not the same as making an all-screen design.

>> Removing the home button is not the same as making an all-screen design. Well, when the half inch bezel will be removed it will feature an "infinite all screen with really no bezel". Lately Apple has been pushing quite a lot of BS in marketing. I'm not sure if it's always been like that or I just started to "wake up". I remember when they announced the Apple TV 4K they made it sound like it's the first 4K device i…

>Lately Apple has been pushing quite a lot of BS in marketing

Apple has been doing it forever. Right from the start.

It is this marketing prowess that has made it what it is.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by handrous »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #77
handrous wrote: post #38

Whoa, what's with the huge bezel? My only Mini is a 1st-gen, but that has a tiny bezel on either side, with somewhat larger ones top-and-bottom, and I really like the resulting overall size & proportions. Did the top and bottom bezels shrink a ton so it just looks like the whole thing's bigger all around because they all match now, or did they widen the sides? Looking at the dimensions on WP it looks like the height…

I think it's so that you can hold the iPad comfortably without accidentally activating something on the screen.

Sure, but they don't do that with their phones, and like hell I'm carrying this thing around without a case (which is also why they don't bother to make their iPhones so they're easy to use caseless, or make them so the backs are flat without a case—everyone uses a case unless they're trying to signal "I'm rich enough that if I drop this and the screen shatters I'll just shrug and buy another immediately, and if it happens again next week, same story"). That was a problem with my Mini when I first took it out of the box, but it was in a case soon after and that stopped being a problem—and I would buy this as an explanation, if they hadn't kept the original design for the first 3 generations, and if they seemed to care about that for other devices—my 4th gen iPad Pro's like that, too, so it's hard to use in-hand without a case because the bezel's tiny—but of course I'm going to have a case on it, so it hardly matters.

[EDIT] in fact, with a case, this thing's gonna look downright fat. Maybe they just couldn't fit as much battery as they needed for these newer chips & screens, in the old size?

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by 12ian34 »

defaultname wrote: post #50
Grakel wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple didn't do it above and beyond not just what is normal but what is reasonable without an eye roll, then it wouldn't appear in every announcement, would it?

Everyone overhypes their product releases. But the reality is that most of us just don't pay attention to them. Microsoft talking about Windows? Eh. Samsung announcing something? Neat. Apple announces something, however, and the detractors just have to flood in and give their hot takes. I suppose that speaks to the influence of Apple now.

And the promoters flood in to defend the supreme overlord with a colourful history of abhorrent factory labour practices (suicides, child labour), proprietary ecosystem lock-in, tax avoidance etc.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by _ea1k »

blowski wrote: post #23
turtlebits wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the wording is hyperbole, going from a A12 to an A15 is quite the performance bump.

And what will I be able to do with that performance bump? I use a tablet mostly for taking notes, email and looking at websites. I can’t see how the former can get any quicker. The latter is slow mostly because of the websites themselves. Will games or office apps get faster or have new possibilities?

I wouldn't say that slow websites are because of slow network traffic in most cases now, though. I think this will make the web much quicker on this new edition, and that's a useful thing in itself.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by beached_whale »

blowski wrote: post #23
turtlebits wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the wording is hyperbole, going from a A12 to an A15 is quite the performance bump.

And what will I be able to do with that performance bump? I use a tablet mostly for taking notes, email and looking at websites. I can’t see how the former can get any quicker. The latter is slow mostly because of the websites themselves. Will games or office apps get faster or have new possibilities?

Generally better battery life. Mobile devices are generally get task done, go to sleep or wind down whatever cores/systems possible. So by doing it faster, it’s generally using less power for the same task. This is often spent in areas like smaller systems, lighter, brighter screens or radio’s though as they work towards a battery life as the budget.
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