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Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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The storm was absolutely rushed to market. That's actually the reason that the whole screen was a big physical clicky button. Existing BB software was designed around cursor based interaction, and cursors can both hover and click. In order to release an iPhone competitor sooner RIM opted to create hardware that could separate "hover touches" and "click touches" rather than take the time to redesign their software for…

I was at RIM during this time and it was an absolute shitshow. It took so much in-fighting to get RIM to even address the iphone, so many people thought it was a passing fad and would never get polished enough to be a real competitor, despite the fact it was already destroying marketshare. But even then, there wasn't enough buy in from the company at large with the device, and it was certainly rushed, I think almost…

How accurate is this globe and mail article? https://archive.vn/2017.01.16-035350/http://www.theglobeandm...

> Competition rising Mike Lazaridis was at home on his treadmill and watching television when he first saw the Apple iPhone in early 2007. There were a few things he didn’t understand about the product. So, that summer, he pried one open to look inside and was shocked. It was like Apple had stuffed a Mac computer into a cellphone, he thought. To Mr. Lazaridis, a life-long tinkerer who had built an oscilloscope and computer while in high school, the iPhone was a device that broke all the rules. The operating system alone took up 700 megabytes of memory, and the device used two processors. The entire BlackBerry ran on one processor and used 32 MB. Unlike the BlackBerry, the iPhone had a fully Internet-capable browser. That meant it would strain the networks of wireless companies like AT&T Inc., something those carriers hadn’t previously allowed. RIM by contrast used a rudimentary browser that limited data usage. > Publicly, Mr. Lazaridis and Mr. Balsillie belittled the iPhone and its shortcomings, including its short battery life, weaker security and initial lack of e-mail. That earned them a reputation for being cocky and, eventually, out of touch. “That’s marketing,” Mr. Lazaridis explained. “You position your strengths against their weaknesses.” Internally, he had a very different message. “If that thing catches on, we’re competing with a Mac, not a Nokia,” he recalled telling his staff.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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We have a lot of positive nostalgia, so time for some negative views :D I hated most every blackberry I owned. Stupid, clumsy and bulky devices. BlackBerry was not that massive a shift from the standard. It was just _slightly_ different to what feature phones of the day were doing. Sony Ericson had some P800/P900 devices that clouted the BB in terms of power and feature sets. Here's a quick roundup of why I don't hol…

Why no one has tried making a keyboard accessory (like the P800 had built-in) for smartphones is a mystery.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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No. The keyboard was nice and it was good for email (of that era) but I hated everything else about those devices.

I much preferred Sony Ericsson feature phones. Java games, much better MP3 player, and they had a browser too. Those always felt a lot more analogous to current smart phones than BlackBerry handsets did.

What I do miss is the HTC Dream. That was the best of both worlds. Smart phone with capacitive touch screen plus a slide out keyboard for more accurate typing. I'm surprised this form factor didn't explode in popularity tbh.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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I still use a Blackberry Classic as my daily driver (I say "still", but I was on Android until mid-2020). It runs "old web" sites like HN perfectly, and supports PC integration (via Blackberry Blend) right out of the box.

I've gone out of my way to switch to a provider that still supports 3G voice calls, but even they're switching off their network in April 2022. I'm not looking forward to that day.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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> probably due to large RIM experience in real-time OSes Nope. They acquired QNX. BB10 is based on QNX, which has been around for far longer than Blackberry and is the most solid OS I’ve ever used.

At the time, I was developing apps for BB10, Android and iOS at the same time. BB10 felt very well designed compared to the other 2.

QNX had been around since the 80’s. I’ve learned C on it.

IIRC it also used some Qt tooling for UI description that helped a lot. It was a very neat toolset for native development. That and the fact it ran Android apps better than Android thanks to the QNX kernel made it a very appealing platform.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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Not the way the question is phrased, I never had a RIM BlackBerry, but I have a TCL KeyOne right now and I love it. For all my life I only had phones with keyboards, and KeyOne was the only one available at the time, and I wouldn't buy a phone without a keyboard. I really hate typing on glass, can't do it with a basic keyboard and I refuse to rely on some spyware to constantly correct me for a low price of sending every single word I type to a third party.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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Yes I miss it everyday, I feel so clumsy typing on a piece of glass, and make soo many typos. I could type BLIND without typos whole emails while maintaining a casual conversation (much to the annoyance of my girlfriend). There are a lot of BlackBerry-stans still on crackberry.com holding out on older and newer BlackBerry phoned (key2 being the latest). Really loved my Q10 with bb10os and my Keyone running Android! S…

> BlackBerry licensed Onward Mobility to make another keyboard phone I would instantly throw away my IPhone (despite being happy with macOS/iOS) for a Blackberry like phone with LineageOS.

How about a GNU/Linux phone with a keyboard?

https://pineguild.com/pinephone-keyboard-first-impression-is...

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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Not the way the question is phrased, I never had a RIM BlackBerry, but I have a TCL KeyOne right now and I love it. For all my life I only had phones with keyboards, and KeyOne was the only one available at the time, and I wouldn't buy a phone without a keyboard. I really hate typing on glass, can't do it with a basic keyboard and I refuse to rely on some spyware to constantly correct me for a low price of sending ev…

The AOSP Keyboard on degoogled Android ROMs don't send what you type to a third party, it does the auto-correction offline. For the Google Board, which is based on AOSP Keyboard, I'm not sure. There are also open source keyboards that have some sort of offline auto-correction too.

However this does not solve the typing on a glass. For that you have Bluetooth keyboards. The problem is that you now need to grab two things to type stuff. That could be a good trade off: you have the keyboard for long messages and can still send quick things on the glass.

Or, you might be interested by the Pinephone with its keyboard case! I have the Pinephone but not the keyboard case, but considering the option. For now I type most things from the computer, glass is good enough for the rare times I don't have my computer. It does not have auto-correction, and I am surprised it does not miss me that much.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?

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Do you use Swiftkey-like typing on your keyboard? On my Android phone I find I can type so fast with it, and I barely have to look at the keyboard.

Swiftkey seems nice until you're not an english native speaker, which means you automatically write in 2 languages (native and at least some english). Now good luck having the keyboard guess which dictionary to use for every single word, which can even lead to mistakes if both suggest the same thing (capitalization). I care about not having a wrong word in the middle of every other sentence. And even that doesn't cha…

And the worst is if you write an English sentence with five common words, but the the AI is convinced the fifth one is actually a long and complicated German word. Our brave new world of shit AI keeps making me think about this goomics comic:

https://goomics.net/278/

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