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Why Monero

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Re: Why Monero

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post #155

This, like the rest of crypto, enables the world's worst humans. Also, the founder (who loves telling people to stay poor online) is in jail for fraud. I'm shocked. I really hope Gensler and co sack up and shut down these wannabe pirate losers.

stay poor

Re: Why Monero

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Paper money is much, much more difficult to use for crime than cryptocurrencies.

Actually it is WAY easier to use paper money for crime than cryptocurrencies.

Aha! How would you know?!

Kidding aside, I have zero clue what the actual adoption rate is for Monero in the seedy underworld of common criminality, so I can't really challenge anyone on this argument.

I can say if I were a criminal, I'd want to keep it as low tech as possible. Given how sophisticated computer forensics is, I don't think I'd be able to keep everything "clean", digitally speaking.

Re: Why Monero

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post #197

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A payment system that's not driven by a unicorn , is "libre", cannot be used by criminals because business payments are visible while customers are anonymous, and helps combat tax avoidance?! Nah, will never fly.

Will never fly because corporations will not adopt something that helps them pay more taxes.

So corporations won't adopt double-entry accounting then? ;) Corporations have ways to move money around legally. There is a regulatory gap... They do not need to hide money illegally.

Re: Why Monero

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post #181

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The most promising? What do you mean? BTC and XMR already work and don't have the downsides of Taler. Usability could be improved for those, yes. Outside transparency is not a benefit. Most people I've talked to about crypto don't see the opacity as a detriment. They do not trust the government or tax policy. Most of these people are also generally happy to pay their taxes but can see reasons when they would want to…

This shows how little cryptocurrency users know about how governments collect taxes. The government doesn't go around checking people's bank accounts in order to get tax information. This would be terribly inefficient. What they do instead is pass laws that require employers to disclose how much they pay their employees and to collect taxes on their behalf, before the taxpayer even receives the money. Therefore priva…

That’s an edge case for payroll taxes/income tax of employees. All other forms of taxation can be avoided by the common man.

Re: Why Monero

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post #202
post #181

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The most promising? What do you mean? BTC and XMR already work and don't have the downsides of Taler. Usability could be improved for those, yes. Outside transparency is not a benefit. Most people I've talked to about crypto don't see the opacity as a detriment. They do not trust the government or tax policy. Most of these people are also generally happy to pay their taxes but can see reasons when they would want to…

This shows how little cryptocurrency users know about how governments collect taxes. The government doesn't go around checking people's bank accounts in order to get tax information. This would be terribly inefficient. What they do instead is pass laws that require employers to disclose how much they pay their employees and to collect taxes on their behalf, before the taxpayer even receives the money. Therefore priva…

You are talking about income tax. There are other taxes, e.g. capital gains tax, that most crypto makes much more difficult for governments to collect.

Re: Why Monero

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post #202

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This shows how little cryptocurrency users know about how governments collect taxes. The government doesn't go around checking people's bank accounts in order to get tax information. This would be terribly inefficient. What they do instead is pass laws that require employers to disclose how much they pay their employees and to collect taxes on their behalf, before the taxpayer even receives the money. Therefore priva…

That’s an edge case for payroll taxes/income tax of employees. All other forms of taxation can be avoided by the common man.

that edge case is most of the tax the common man pays

Re: Why Monero

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post #8

Still has 21 minute transaction time: https://www.monero.how/how-long-do-monero-transactions-take

In contrast, "Algorand delivers the fastest finality possible thanks to its Pure Proof of Stake (PPoS) algorithm invented by MIT Professor Silvio Micali. The consensus mechanism doesn’t admit forks at all, which reduces the risk of micro forks to zero. The block creation time on Algorand is less than 5 seconds, and all transactions reach immediate finality." [0] And although Algorand doesn't include some of the more…

Algorand is the exact opposite ethos from Monero. They are partnered with the World Economic Forum and being used for things like vaccine passport haha

Re: Why Monero

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I used to hold Monero, my issue with it is that it's main use case of anonymity aids the anti-crypto story of crypto being used for money laundering or other illicit activities.

It is the common narrative, yes. But it doesn’t need to be. Monero has view keys that allows for audit-ability, for example.

Re: Why Monero

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post #178

GNU Taler is (for Europeans at least) the most promising system, because it is controllable (at least on the merchant side). The users themself are anonymous, just like when using cash! That is a good system because it enables governments to still being able to tax businesses and control illegal activities. Such system will also gain more acceptance among the common folks. https://taler.net/en/index.html

GNU Taler is trash as it has built in taxation. Something crypto tries to abolish as taxation is theft.

wow! much edgy, such badboy!
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