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Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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Is Wikipedia wrong? They say this: > Alzheimer's disease is believed to occur when abnormal amounts of amyloid beta, accumulating extracellularly as amyloid plaques, and tau proteins, accumulating intracellularly as neurofibrillary tangles, form in the brain affecting neuronal functioning and connectivity, resulting in a progressive loss of brain function.

Wikipedia is correct to say it's widely believed that plaques cause Alzheimer's, because the new evidence is still encountering resistance. The hallmark of science is falsification. We now have many drugs that remove amyloid plaques with few side effects. Removing plaques does not improve symptoms or halt progression [1, 2]. Furthermore, 60% people over 80 have these plaques but only 10% develop dementia [3]. Ergo, t…

I can't get the whole paper, but your first link seems to be saying that we've put all our eggs into one basket and we are ignoring too many other theories. It doesn't go so far as to say the amyloid angle is bunk, does it?

Your second link says this:

> researchers have said experimental treatments targeting the beta amyloid protein might not have worked in the past because the doses were too low or the patient populations used for the trials should have been younger

Again, that doesn't seem to be concluding the amyloid & tau street is a dead end.

The Alzheimer's Association site (alz.org) agrees:

> Alzheimer's has no cure, but one treatment — aducanumab (Aduhelm™) — is the first therapy to demonstrate that removing amyloid, one of the hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease, from the brain is reasonably likely to reduce cognitive and functional decline in people living with early Alzheimer’s.

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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post #98

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It is a paired t-test as the test takers are the same individuals. This is confirmed in the statistical analysis section of the actual paper. Paired t-test have more statistical power because we don't correct for group variation (as they are the same group measured twice). Edit: One way to think about this is assuming the effects are random and symmetric then the probability of going up is 1/2. If all 6 participants…

You're right about the paired test (although I think there's an issue with the group variance). But your final calculation is for a sign test. For a t-test where every point shifts a very little bit (e.g. 0.01 stddev), p is larger, I think.

Yes, my edit was more meant to illustrate how 6 data points can yield a significant result. Paired t-test is all about the differences. So if all test subjects shift up by 0.01 (no variance in the differences) then the statistic will actually be infinite (i.e. very large) and so p is theoretically 0 (very small). I also agree that the paired testing needs more convincing from the researchers.

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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Ignoring the obvious problems with the study design that others have pointed out, it does seem like an interesting concept.

We see several stories a year discussing the links between air pollution and dementia, and also a link between more exercise and less dementia. so it makes some sense to me that there might be a link between decreasing lung function and increasing dementia. if the function of the HBOT is to increase the ability of lungs to oxygenate blood, maybe there is a subtle but important threshold of blood oxygenation that we don't understand well enough.

note: I am not a medical professional at all, it just seems like there is a "lung function" commonality in several of these stories.

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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post #39

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What do you mean by "back to back sessions"? How many sessions are we talking about here? What happens between one session and the next?

5 session of 90 minutes, then a 2 day break. Rinse and repeat. It's a navy diving protocol.

How much time between each session? A day?

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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Anyone interested in this should also take a look at Lions Mane Mushrooms. They have been shown to significantly help with cognitive decline.

Citation needed; I know research into psychedelics is difficult due to restrictions, but anecdotal evidence is not enough to start recommending it without listing the necessary caveats. I mean "Ivermectin has been shown to significantly help with Covid" has the same weight to it, and I'd never recommend anyone take horse dewormer. Maybe if they had worms and it was the only thing available.

I can’t edit the comment, but this provides some more detail on Lions Mane. Also note that it is not a psychedelic mushroom.

“ The evidence so far has shown that H. erinaceus mycelium enriched with its active compounds is capable of delaying neuronal cell death in rats with neurodegenerative diseases, such as ischemic stroke, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease, and depression. Moreover, results have indicated that administration of H. erinaceus mycelia enriched with its active compounds can promote functional recovery and enhance nerve regeneration in rats with neuropathic pain or presbycusis. Despite that more clinical research is needed to fully understand the potential applications of erinacine-enriched Hericium erinaceus mycelium, the majority of preclinical data strongly suggests that it is safe and offers much-needed neuroprotective applications.”

Source: Neurohealth Properties of Hericium erinaceus Mycelia Enriched with Erinacines

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5987239/

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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(102.4 ± 7.3 to 109.5 ± 5.8, p=0.004) 106 is well within a standard deviation of both of those. In fact, 109.5 is only one standard deviation away from the first, and the reverse is almost true. How do they get p = 0.004?

The baseline score was (86.6 ± 9.2). You are seeing the improved score (maybe the 95% confidence interval?).

Yeah good point, it might be the 95% confidence interval and not the standard deviation.

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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post #114

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5 session of 90 minutes, then a 2 day break. Rinse and repeat. It's a navy diving protocol.

How much time between each session? A day?

Yep, one session per day :)

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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post #40

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The amyloid hypothesis is not dead - just like the tau hypothesis is not dead. The $1m question is what role do the proteins play and at what stage and to what degree

I assume "the amyloid hypothesis" is the hypothesis that plaques cause Alzheimer's. That hypothesis is indeed dead. There are plenty of successful plaque treatments. Basically none of them are effective.

which does nothing to explain why people with APP mutations such as found in fAd develop early onset Alzheimers. So the mystery of Amyloid and its role in dementias persists

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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The amyloid hypothesis is not dead - just like the tau hypothesis is not dead. The $1m question is what role do the proteins play and at what stage and to what degree

There are so many plausible Alzheimer’s theories that it makes me wonder: are multiple of them right? Is Alzheimer’s really many different diseases that present the same way?

Quite possibly - however we haven't developed enough discerning power to differentiate between what may be a potential 'Alzheimer's Cluster' and say Fronto-temporal, Lewy Body, Vascular, etc etc.

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia

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post #86

I prefer hyperbolic chambers. They are literally the greatest chambers anyone has ever seen anywhere ever.

I'll be the one to say, I don't usually upvote jokes on Hacker News, but this one was deserving of the site.
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