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Trademark Actions Against the PostgreSQL Community

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Re: Trademark Actions Against the PostgreSQL Community

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Post by lm2s »

mistrial9 wrote: post #2

Perhaps for legal reasons it is important to show willingness to negotiate .. but really, a land-grab like this gets "we hope we can be friends" response ? "The PostgreSQL Core Team and PGCAC still hope for an amicable resolution" ..

I think it just means "outside of court".

Re: Trademark Actions Against the PostgreSQL Community

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Post by Loic »

mistrial9 wrote: post #2

Perhaps for legal reasons it is important to show willingness to negotiate .. but really, a land-grab like this gets "we hope we can be friends" response ? "The PostgreSQL Core Team and PGCAC still hope for an amicable resolution" ..

It shows the benevolence of the PostgreSQL Community(TM) ;-)

I think this is the morally right way to handle the issue. This way they also accumulate good-will if they need to take stronger legal actions. I like it.

Re: Trademark Actions Against the PostgreSQL Community

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Post by clra »

mistrial9 wrote: post #2

Perhaps for legal reasons it is important to show willingness to negotiate .. but really, a land-grab like this gets "we hope we can be friends" response ? "The PostgreSQL Core Team and PGCAC still hope for an amicable resolution" ..

It's worth noting that (from the article) the offender in this case isn't some gigantic organization like Amazon — it's basically one guy, and one who considers himself to be a member in good standing whose part of the Postgres community.

I'd hazard a guess that by taking this public, the Postgres team is trying to create some pressure on him through public opinion in the hope that he sees reason and it doesn't have to become a long and arduous legal battle which benefits no one.

And it really shouldn't have to. It's not clear what Álvaro's actual motives are in trying to usurp the Postgres trademark — it could be some cynical profiteering thing, but hopefully it was just some momentary hubris that can still be walked back and resolved amicably.

Re: Trademark Actions Against the PostgreSQL Community

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Post by tempest_ »

In the spirit of the open source movement, the PostgreSQL community has always tried to operate transparently and fairly, and provide resources for people to adopt, use, and promote PostgreSQL. We continuously look to improve and are very much open to feedback (look no further than the discussions on our mailing lists)!

Perhaps I am just a little too young but I do find the use of mailing lists in some of the older open source projects to be a bit cumbersome in 2021. I know there are advantages to them and their semi decentralized nature is a feature but I sure do find them difficult to interact with.

Regardless of the above I do hope they come to a amicable solution and it is interesting to me to find that Postgres trade marks are held by a Canadian entity.

Re: Trademark Actions Against the PostgreSQL Community

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Post by jimhefferon »

tempest_ wrote: post #8

In the spirit of the open source movement, the PostgreSQL community has always tried to operate transparently and fairly, and provide resources for people to adopt, use, and promote PostgreSQL. We continuously look to improve and are very much open to feedback (look no further than the discussions on our mailing lists)! Perhaps I am just a little too young but I do find the use of mailing lists in some of the older o…

Cumbersone in what way?
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