Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
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Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#2I love when US companies get to learn our unions and work laws are actually to be followed upon.
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#3Interesting wording of this headline, you would almost think Uber were fighting for the rights of their drivers if you read it out of context.
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#4Interesting wording of this headline, you would almost think Uber were fighting for the rights of their drivers if you read it out of context.
but then again people remember how us-american gig-companies operate...
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#5“Drivers don’t want to give up their freedom to choose if, when and where to work.”
Drivers might have the freedom to turn off their phones and choose not to work, but they don't have the freedom to choose which routes/destinations. Seems to me that their argument is one-sided and deceptive.
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#6Bit out of context but I just came back from US (living in Netherlands). Holy flipping hell that place is full of cars. Literally everywhere. I mean I understand using a car upstate New York where things are further apart and everyone has a huge isolated villa. But do you really need 4 lane roads in freaking manhattan?
Seems like regulating "car stuff" in general is always a good thing if you ask me.
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#7Uber says the majority of drivers don't want this, which I'd call bs on, but has anyone heard from actual drivers what they want?
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#8I love when US companies get to learn our unions and work laws are actually to be followed upon.
The US's are too, to be fair. The laws just suck to begin with, unlike most European countries'.
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#9“Drivers don’t want to give up their freedom to choose if, when and where to work.” Drivers might have the freedom to turn off their phones and choose not to work, but they don't have the freedom to choose which routes/destinations. Seems to me that their argument is one-sided and deceptive.
If you don't have that freedom, you're an employee, which is what this conflict is about. Because if they're an employee, their employer must pay social insurance. The self-employed are exempted from this insurance (although highly encouraged, because, not surprisingly, the vast majority of self-employed people don't become lucky billionaires). Uber wanted to have it both ways, and, not surprisingly, it can't. Self-employed people do whatever they like, including choosing the rides they drive for Uber.
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#10Uber says the majority of drivers don't want this, which I'd call bs on, but has anyone heard from actual drivers what they want?
I think Uber might be right here. EU labor laws protect a few but over a certain salary they are not very appealing. In Italy paying a net salary of 2,000 euros will cost the company 6000+. Things included like pension are not worth their cost, a private pension is better and cheaper, same for health services. It’s unfortunate but it’s true.