Time to start the Church of Not Getting Fingerprinted so that we can all get exempted.
Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
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Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#22"Harrington informed APRS in July 2017 that having his fingerprints captured was contrary to his 'sincerely held religious belief.'" Good on him, but I thought they actually checked up on the whole "religious beliefs" thing? Is this an actual Christian belief? Edit: "Plaintiff, a devout Christian, informed AST that the Book of Revelation prohibits the “mark of the devil” which she believed included fingerprinting and…
Let's face it: The company did the right thing for its clients getting rid of a dumb-ass, even if it cost them $65K.
Unless, of course, it was all a ruse to simply avoid being fingerprinted (and one would think that the company would've sought evidence... such as church attendance... of being a "devout Christian"). In that case... not such a dṳmb-ȧṡs.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#23I'm not sure why people are so weird about fingerprints and facial recognition. Your biometrics are not secret at all, any more than your hair color. You fingerprint yourself in every restaurant with glass cups, and leave those prints behind when you depart.
So you wouldn't object if someone followed you to every restaurant and collected your fingerprints off the glasses you use? You wouldn't be a bit creeped out by that?
Something doesn't have to be a secret for it to feel private.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#24Good. Religious exemptions are pragmatic canaries for state overreach. People are not livestock, even if states and employers like to treat them that way. The idea of a religious exemption isn't just some pastafarian variation, it represents a very real line between the individual and group and whether one is a citizen or mere property.
This is the marking issue with biometrics. Are you a being with agency, or are you property represented by your mark? The point of privacy laws are that your consent is required, and taking things from you under duress or coercion is not consent.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#25Interesting that he was religiously opposed to fingerprinting but had no problem with the debt collection aspect. I seem to recall Jesus being not-too-complimentary about the tax collectors of the time who hounded people for money.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#26I'm not sure why people are so weird about fingerprints and facial recognition. Your biometrics are not secret at all, any more than your hair color. You fingerprint yourself in every restaurant with glass cups, and leave those prints behind when you depart.
So you wouldn't object if someone followed you to every restaurant and collected your fingerprints off the glasses you use? You wouldn't be a bit creeped out by that? Something doesn't have to be a secret for it to feel private.
So you wouldn't object if someone followed you to every restaurant
I think most readers stopped here.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#27I'm not sure why people are so weird about fingerprints and facial recognition. Your biometrics are not secret at all, any more than your hair color. You fingerprint yourself in every restaurant with glass cups, and leave those prints behind when you depart.
Would you mind posting here and now web links to pictures of your face and your fingerprints?
Please use IPFS [0] too, for posterity
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#28Interesting that he was religiously opposed to fingerprinting but had no problem with the debt collection aspect. I seem to recall Jesus being not-too-complimentary about the tax collectors of the time who hounded people for money.
Jesus preached to debt/tax collectors, prosecutors, etc because they were the ones who needed it.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#29most of my family agreed to get fingerprinted to get free gym membership (family friend runs the gym and you scan your thumb at the door for access). It pissed me off so much.
Why did it piss you off? Is the fingerprint being used for something other than access? Is it even stored in a format that would allow it to be used for something else? I'm pretty privacy and personal freedom conscious- for example I wouldn't go anywhere that made me scan a QR code or use an app. But I can't think of any concern I have with a private business using my fingerprint as an access token, unless I'm also s…
"I'm pretty privacy and personal freedom conscious- for example I wouldn't go anywhere that made me scan a QR code or use an app. But I can't think of any concern I have with a private business using my fingerprint as an access token"
That is absolutely ridiculous and contradictory. You won't scan a QR code with a phone app, but you'll hand your fingerprints over to a private entity? For storage with unknown security and access by an unknown number of people?
Dumb.
Re: Man wins $65K after being fired for refusing to be fingerprinted
#30How about the church of not needing a college degree to get a job