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Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by hilbert42 »

tosstoyevsky wrote: post #21
jp0d wrote: post #14

This might be an unpopular opinion! But there are some really bad people out there. The situation is getting out of hand here in Melbourne and there are people like this family who're Covid positive and still out and about in the community. We should blame selfish people like these for such measures from the government. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-9964173/M...

The people aren’t to blame for an extreme government overreach.

I hate this and it's gross government overreach but it's those few bastards who've deliberately and surreptitiously defied quarantine that's given the government the excuse it needs to so act.

Unlike the US, COVID was essentially controlled in Australia until some very specific violations of quarantine happened - and the outbreak traced to these violators. These outbreaks weren't of iffy origin, they were clearcut linked to these perpetrators.

In an era where governments everywhere are going authoritarian it only takes something like this to be used as an excuse. The trouble is there'll be little complaint from the public as everyone is aware of the causal link to the outbreaks - and the Australian public, like bloody-minded sheep, is too easily spooked when governments crack the whip.

Unfortunately, Australia is a very conservative country and the vast majority of its citizens do what they're told without question even when government makes crazy decisions, so we've a double-whammy problem/excuse when a few people go feral.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by dmix »

lwansbrough wrote: post #16
Ms-J wrote: post #3

Citizens need to enforce and assert their rights there before it's too late.

What rights? Australia does not have a bill of rights. It has a very limited number of fundamental rights outlined in the Constitution but other than that you seem to be pretty much screwed, which explains why these draconian measures always seem to land in Australia first.

Even in a system with a bill of rights those laws are there as a last resort, to deal with complete failure states. They are the limits, not standard operating procedures.

There is always going to be capacity for doing better, society is always what we make of it, even without hard legal limits (not to suggest imposing limits of state power is bad).

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by ipaddr »

hug wrote: post #48
6nf wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Looks like you fell for it. In many countries blaming that covid still exists is an easy scapegoat. So many people are falling for this line of thinking because everyone needs to blame someome.

With two doses you can go out 3 times to every 1 time someone with no shots can.

Blame the foolish who think because they are 2 dose vaxxed that they can continue their lives as normal. You can't.. stay home.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by 6nf »

drcross wrote: post #57
hug wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If you think you need a vaccine for a disease with a median age of death that's 84 you've badly failed at basic risk analysis and you've been massaged by the machine.

The government is moving to vaccinate younger and younger kids even though the risk to them from covid is much much less than the risks from the vaccines. In the UK the scientists specifically came out against vaccinating kids because the evidence is not there, but the UK govt is 'ignoring The Science' and moving ahead anyway.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by FridgeSeal »

shkkmo wrote: post #54

Before you jump on your outrage high horse, it would be worth your time to investigate the details. This is about South Australia adopting a new quarantine at home option for those who are entering the country. Allowing people to quaratine at home with an App rather than at designated quarantine hotels is a REDUCTION in government overreach. In Western Australia where something similar is in use, this is a voluntary…

Ssshhhh, you’ll interrupt all the people who are desperate for an excuse to screech about their favourite topics of “failed states” and “taking up arms against the government”.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by notatoad »

amanzi wrote: post #66

The opening paragraph of the article describes what is actually happening and it's far less ominous that what the comments here suggest. "In an official statement, the State Government announced a contract to a Western Australian (WA) company for $1.1 million to develop a new smartphone app that uses facial recognition and GPS tracking technology to monitor people who are ordered to self-quarantine at home, reported…

yeah, there's been a lot of freaking out about this, but it's much less oppressive than being forced to stay in a quarantine hotel.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by mandelbrotwurst »

jwond wrote: post #43
mandelbrotwurst wrote: post #19

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Wow, who was it in their government who was discussing a NWO? Do you have any link / source / context?

It was the chief health officer of New South Wales, Dr. Kerry Chant. Dr. Chant said: “We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the New World Order…yes it will be pubs and clubs and other things if we have a positive case there.” https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/new-world-order-austra...

Oof, thanks.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by brink »

gobookdev wrote: post #63
throwawayfear wrote: post #22

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Rally your people and take it to the politicians’ offices until they throw out these policies entirely. Wear masks and go in big numbers.

Dude that organised the last protest got 8 months prison. 75% of the population agrees with some of the totalitarian laws. Still a great country, but I'm looking at other places to live, Senior Engineer so it won't be hard to get sponsorship. Thinking about USA where people really understand the importance of their constitution, and the tech sector is the strongest in the world.

Appreciate the kind words about America, friend. Even with our constitution it's still be a fight. Unconstitutional laws are passed regularly here, until they're challenged in court. Sometimes they fall, sometimes they stay.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by FridgeSeal »

throwawayfear wrote: post #70
FridgeSeal wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we’re supposed to just sit around and let infectious people roam around the community (putting everyone’s health and safety at risk) because they didn’t do as politely asked? We had Katie Hopkins here earlier in the year bragging about how she was going to deliberately break quarantine etc etc. If people aren’t going to follow a reasonable precaution, this far into a pandemic, then I have little sympathy when hars…

Take a step back and think critically about what you are saying and what kind of system you are building. You are building a system of enslavement. You will not be able to go anywhere or do anything except without the arbitrary permission from authorities who don’t care about you. This pandemic is nowhere near that dangerous to justify this. Where do you draw the line? When you can’t shop in the grocery store unless…

Is the number after your throwaway name a counter of all the accounts you’ve had to create because they keep getting removed for saying silly stuff like this?

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by shkkmo »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #75
shkkmo wrote: post #54

Before you jump on your outrage high horse, it would be worth your time to investigate the details. This is about South Australia adopting a new quarantine at home option for those who are entering the country. Allowing people to quaratine at home with an App rather than at designated quarantine hotels is a REDUCTION in government overreach. In Western Australia where something similar is in use, this is a voluntary…

Ssshhhh, you’ll interrupt all the people who are desperate for an excuse to screech about their favourite topics of “failed states” and “taking up arms against the government”.

I share many aspects of their ideological viewpoints, I would just rather see them operate from a more informed position.
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