I’m done with this bullshit. Fuck Covid. Fuck extreme over reactions to it and Fuck Joe Biden.
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Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine
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#52Citizens need to enforce and assert their rights there before it's too late.
Did you even read the article?
Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine
#53So, do the people support this? Is this a failure of a democracy, or do the people really want this?
I'd say that in general Australians are more trusting of their government than our American friends. I often see poeple on Twitter like Joe Rogan and friends expressing total shock about how compliant Aussies are with what seems like draconian lockdown rules, but I think that misses the point. When our government says we can only go outside for an hour a day, there's a general sentiment that this is a shame but we understand these kind of things are necessary to get a handle on the pandemic. We don't assume this is an effort from our government to exert control, and believe this is a temporary measure in our best interests.
That being said, each time I read a headline like this I get slightly more concerned that if one day this trust is ever abused, it'll be all the worse because we never fought hard against these measures.
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#54Before you jump on your outrage high horse, it would be worth your time to investigate the details.
This is about South Australia adopting a new quarantine at home option for those who are entering the country. Allowing people to quaratine at home with an App rather than at designated quarantine hotels is a REDUCTION in government overreach.
In Western Australia where something similar is in use, this is a voluntary part of a similar program that saves officers having to make more house calls.
If you don't bother to do basic research before you get outraged, your outrage will eventually be discounted as "crying wolf" and won't be as effective the next time you need to push back against real government overreach.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're dealing with an endemic disease that is going on its third year. At some point, people and governments need to recognize that fact: it's not controllable and it will spread eventually no matter how dystopian you get.
But we have not tried putting people into individual cages yet. We should do it for their own good. After all, COVID is terrible for grandma Suzi. If we space the cages at 10 feet rather than 6 it should totally work to stop the spread of COVID and it will all be good! #trustthescience
This is tongue in cheek but there are absolutely people even in tech who are either stupid enough to go along with that or secretly want that because they are full of hate towards the “unvaxxed.”
Which makes the media fearmongering about the “unvaxxed” even more dangerous. They never mention immunity from past infection which is now known to be superior protection.
Here’s a recent source:
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on...
That they insist on vaccinated vs unvaccinated in the media narrative is worrisome because it is going to lead to dehumanization and division.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not being forced to do this. You can instead spend 2 weeks locked up in a hotel at your expense.
What kind of insanity have we collectively tolerated that “you can pay to be locked up in a ‘hotel’ tor two weeks” is seen as some kind of evidence that there is no compulsion? That’s like saying people aren’t forced to vaccinate since you don’t “need” to work at that particular job and you don’t “need” to exercise in a gym or watch a movie in a theater. Everything in history shows the slope is slippery. They will pa…
The kind of insanity that has been the law for well over a year. Getting outraged at an effort to make that policy less draconian is pretty silly.
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#58From TFA: >Downloading and using the G2G app is voluntary in WA [Western Australia], but the Government encourages people to use it So not enforced, right...? (EDIT: my bad, this refers to an existing app; the new app sounds like it would be a mandated download)
The new app is part SA of creating an alternative to mandatory 2 week hotel quarantines. The app is only required for those who would rather do their 2 week quarantine in their own home.
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#59"... following a selective tender process in November" Remarkably slow process given that we are dealing with a pandemic. Worth pointing out that "Australian gov to use" should read "South Australian gov to use" (South Australia being a state of Australia). EDIT: As this thread is attracting attention from people who have views different from my own I'd just like to make it clear that I'm in favour of controlling the…
It's hilariously slow. They started talking about this South Australian trial over three months ago. It's like how governments would plan a new train station, except it's in response to a fast-moving pandemic.
Health departments are supposed to be prepared for a pandemic, they've been happening for all of recorded history and it's in the job description to be alert and ready to manage it. Today is lockdown day 224 in Melbourne and here we are wondering how to eventually open up retail and manage international arrivals.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Do you consider people with immunity from past infections to be antivaxers?
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on...
Do you believe covid is dangerous enough to justify turning Australia into a totalitarian regime where you need to show papers to go anywhere and have constant surveillance even in your own home? Did you know they’re even dangling how many people can visit your home as a carrot?
https://theconversation.com/vaccine-passports-are-coming-to-...
“NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday announced freedoms for fully vaccinated people once 70% of the state’s eligible population are double dosed. These include being able to go to hospitality venues, hairdressers and gyms, and have five people to your home.”
Wake up now before it is too late. You’re falling for their us-them division tactic where they get you to hate the “anti vax” until you build the systems of your own enslavement.