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This headline is misleading ... "Australian gov" sounds like the Australian Federal government, but the government in question is the South Australian government, which is a State gov.
Came here to point this out too Plus it's been done already by the Western Australian state government https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier...
Wow. It’s like the twilight zone over there. I’m quite concerned at the lengths governments are going to take away our rights. All in the name of “the good of others”.
In Australia it's under 20% of people that have gone insane. The rest have checked out and completely ignored it. It's like a long holiday where you get paid to pretend you work.
But you can't say that in polite company so you just have ~40 percent compliance with whatever insanity is going on now. Hilariously enough the compliance from police is lower than from the general population so basically we have politicians and the terminally online talking about masks, jabs and sign ins and the people who are supposed to enforce it not being bothered with it.
Standing in front of the super market something like one in three pull out their phone, unlock it, point it at the check in qr code and not log in.
I'm reminded of the latter days of the USSR where no one took anything the government said seriously and just did whatever they felt like. Which does not bode well for the current incarnation of Australia long term.
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Australia is already a failed state. That happened the second they decided to imprison their populace and started talking about the "New world order." The state has failed its people, and the only thing left is for it to crumble.
Wow, who was it in their government who was discussing a NWO? Do you have any link / source / context?
Dr. Chant said: “We will be looking at what contact tracing looks like in the New World Order…yes it will be pubs and clubs and other things if we have a positive case there.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/new-world-order-austra...
This might be an unpopular opinion! But there are some really bad people out there. The situation is getting out of hand here in Melbourne and there are people like this family who're Covid positive and still out and about in the community. We should blame selfish people like these for such measures from the government. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-9964173/M...
The people aren’t to blame for an extreme government overreach.
Where is the overreach in a voluntary app that people are encouraged to use to save the government resources?
Citizens need to enforce and assert their rights there before it's too late.
What rights? Australia does not have a bill of rights. It has a very limited number of fundamental rights outlined in the Constitution but other than that you seem to be pretty much screwed, which explains why these draconian measures always seem to land in Australia first.
A "bill of rights" is a piece of paper. A piece of paper which is ruled upon by a court that was granted its power by the very same collection of papers.
For example, the right to keep and bear arms (obviously not for hunting but for war and security) has been infringed upon many times, but constitutional courts have decided that actually despite the bill of rights, some infringement is allowed. (EDIT: And this doesn't even address the problem of governments creating unconstitutional laws or executing unconstitutional actions which de facto strip your rights for some possibly significant time until it can be overturned by a court, but without much redress or punishment or deterrent)
In the end the people are the ultimate arbiters and deciders of what rights they are willing to give up and what powers they are willing to be governed under. This plays out the same way in USA and Australia and Afghanistan and Libya.
Wow. It’s like the twilight zone over there. I’m quite concerned at the lengths governments are going to take away our rights. All in the name of “the good of others”.
That's just the excuse, and the excuses don't come very often so you have to pass as many bs laws while the average voter is in a panic.
So, do the people support this? Is this a failure of a democracy, or do the people really want this?
So it's hard to ask whether the people support it in such a state.
We should be very very careful relying on crisis moments to make major decisions. Which is always going to be a drawback in democracy (all systems have flaws). There will always be long term consequences as these things never have time limits. Any new capability adopted should be assumed to be permanent.
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Australia is already on its way to being a failed state by now. Police and military patrol the streets to enforce rules, “papers please” tyranny is required to live, and soon they’ll demand complete surveillance and control in your own house. Wake up before it is too late. https://theconversation.com/vaccine-passports-are-coming-to-... “NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday announced freedoms for fully vaccinated…
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What rights? Australia does not have a bill of rights. It has a very limited number of fundamental rights outlined in the Constitution but other than that you seem to be pretty much screwed, which explains why these draconian measures always seem to land in Australia first.
Rights exist by what people demand and exercise and do. A "bill of rights" is a piece of paper. A piece of paper which is ruled upon by a court that was granted its power by the very same collection of papers. For example, the right to keep and bear arms (obviously not for hunting but for war and security) has been infringed upon many times, but constitutional courts have decided that actually despite the bill of rig…
I've never understood why America puts of with basically being a police state, with the level of police brutality and incarceration that they have.
And here in aussieland, we don't have that, but we do nothing to protect our liberties.
Citizens need to enforce and assert their rights there before it's too late.
You are not being forced to do this. You can instead spend 2 weeks locked up in a hotel at your expense.
That’s like saying people aren’t forced to vaccinate since you don’t “need” to work at that particular job and you don’t “need” to exercise in a gym or watch a movie in a theater.
Everything in history shows the slope is slippery. They will pass this on to everyone. It’s a blatant power grab. They want to spy on you and track you. They don’t care about your health.