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Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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Re: Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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My favorite way to think of it is that the speed of anything is measured in distance per unit time. You can’t change the constant that is the speed of light, but what if you could change what “time” means? The constant holds, but time doesn’t; it varies among observers. A second from the perspective of observer A is not identical to a second from the perspective of observer B.

Freaky, but true.

Re: Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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I think a lot of people assume that this means you couldn't go more than a few (~100) light-years in your lifetime... But this is not actually correct. Counter-intuitively you can theorically go any number of light-years (essentially) in your lifetime, as long as you are able to approach the speed of light because when you do so the distance is dilated and hence you're covering far more ground within your reference frame (of course you'd be in the deep future from the perspective of anyone in our normal reference frame).

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post #23

I think a lot of people assume that this means you couldn't go more than a few (~100) light-years in your lifetime... But this is not actually correct. Counter-intuitively you can theorically go any number of light-years (essentially) in your lifetime, as long as you are able to approach the speed of light because when you do so the distance is dilated and hence you're covering far more ground within your reference f…

It just means you can't within the lifetimes of the people you left behind. For that you need more exotic contraptions (wormholes, warp drive, etc).

Re: Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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post #23

I think a lot of people assume that this means you couldn't go more than a few (~100) light-years in your lifetime... But this is not actually correct. Counter-intuitively you can theorically go any number of light-years (essentially) in your lifetime, as long as you are able to approach the speed of light because when you do so the distance is dilated and hence you're covering far more ground within your reference f…

To put it another way, time travel machines are very much theoretically possible, and in fact are “only” an engineering problem (an extremely hard one, however). But, only forward travel is allowed: time travel machine could take you as far forward as its engineering would allow it, but there is no going back.

Re: Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, but if I can make my angle orthogonal to the time axis, isn’t that like instantaneous movement?

If you could move in space but not in time, then you would be in two places at the same time which would violate conservation of matter, right?

That depends on how you define 'conservation of energy'. Consider an arbitrary bounded volume of spacetime. Conservation of energy says that the net flow across the boundary of any such volume is 0. Under this definition moving in space but not time is not a violation, as the same amount of mass enters the volume as exits it. The only odity is that both events happen at the same time

Re: Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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The simplest way I could ever wrap my head around this, is to understand that everything travels through spacetime at the same speed. There is no travelling faster or slower, just crossing the graph at a different angle.

You have to be careful when talking about 'speed' when you make time a dimension in your geometry. Traditionally, speed is a measure of how much of your space-time curve is in along the time axis. For any space-time path, you can consider the coordinate system as an observer traveling that path would see it, in which that observer would see itself traveling through time at a rate of one second per second. Geometrical…

To me, this was why the statement that "B would see the objects growing further apart while A would see them getting closer together", if FTL was allowed, was not a very satisfying answer.

So given what you've described, that means that forces applied to bodies need to have a time component equal in magnitude to the spatial components. Forces must always exist along that 45° line. The limit of the force required to continue to rotate that spacetime velocity out of the time component and into the spatial components goes to infinity as the vector approaches that 45° line.

The fact that forces are unidirectional is the unexplained part. If they weren't, then we could rotate that vector further, and start traveling backwards in time. Then wouldn't B expect to see the objects moving apart, while A sees them moving closer together?

To me, the impossibility of the disparity in observations is a consequence of, dependant on, no-FTL, not an explanation thereof.

Addendum: I don't understand why you said 45° instead of 90°. I thought objects traveling at the speed of light would experience infinite time dilation, and thus be observed as having 0 passage of time.

Re: Why can’t I go faster than the speed of light?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, but if I can make my angle orthogonal to the time axis, isn’t that like instantaneous movement?

It is instantaneous from the perspective of the object’s internal clocks . Traveling at the speed of light results in infinite time dilation. Which means that from the perspective of an outside observer, no time at all is passing inside the spaceship.

What happens to fields (magnetic, gravitational, electrostatic, etc) in that situation? E.g. can a photon 'feel' the surfaces it would ultimately interact with?

One way I like to think of this is the term 'sun-kissed'. From the perspective of the photon, the sun is actually giving you a kiss on a summer day.

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