Not convinced a sample size of 31 is enough, but imagine the implications of a ML model that can detect if you’ve used cannabis recently. Seems like a privacy nightmare.
Adults with history of recreational cannabis use have altered speech production
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#32The way America’s legalization effort has progressed has been really unfortunate. It seems as though no attempt at finding a middle ground was made, and consequently we wound up with complete legalization. Marijuana is an addictive highly potent mood altering substance that’s become available on demand with no real discussion about the consequences. Will anyone argue that having 15% of the otherwise young and product…
> gives us an advantage over China?
1) What exactly has China, its people and government done or doing to you, your people and your country specifically
I don't think HN is the type of platform for BS political flame baiting but...
2) I am curious as to why you felt the need to include win against China and if you think that's a reasonable statement.
Re: Adults with history of recreational cannabis use have altered speech production
#33To point out the absurdity of this study using only 31 users with varying degrees of other types of drug use, as well as measuring some highly subjective metric, let me offer some purely anecdotal evidence that has a bigger sample size. I can name more than 31 rappers (try me) that have heavy, long-term cannabis use that have fast "speech timing", high "vocal quality", and low "vocal effort" compared to the general p…
> let me offer some purely anecdotal evidence that has a bigger sample size That is not how science works. And a study isn't absurd just because you don't like its conclusions.
"To point out the absurdity of this study using only 31 users with varying degrees of other types of drug use, as well as measuring some highly subjective metric, "
This is the reason he does not like the study.
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#34The way America’s legalization effort has progressed has been really unfortunate. It seems as though no attempt at finding a middle ground was made, and consequently we wound up with complete legalization. Marijuana is an addictive highly potent mood altering substance that’s become available on demand with no real discussion about the consequences. Will anyone argue that having 15% of the otherwise young and product…
Federal legislation is far from finished. Who knows what we end up with. I for one would prefer to pay rehabilitation therapy rather than supporting the ludicrous enforcement apparatus we have now. If someone wants to burn away their brain cells, let them do it. Why involve police and the justice system? Why throw them in jail, where they have even less chance of rehabilitating themselves? I don't need to retread the…
I don't use it, nor do I drink alcohol, smoke tobacco (or vape), and I don't use any other drugs at all. I haven't, for decades. I'm no fun at all.
That's because I burned through my quota by the time I was eighteen.
As far as I'm concerned, they should totally legalize it, to the same extent as booze (which, if discovered today, would easily be classified as a Schedule IV narcotic).
Here in New York, we had the Rockefeller sentencing laws in the 1970s. There's people still in jail, today, for offenses that would get a slap on the wrist, these days.
I doubt that it will suddenly make America look like the parking lot of a Grateful Dead show. People who would have problems with legal weed, are already having problems with it now, or are having problems with other drugs (like booze). Most folks won't have any real issues with it. Some will have problems that will cause things like traffic fatalities. Big Tobacco will take over the industry, destroying many of the mom-and-pothead dispensaries that we have now, and we'll probably see an "artisanal cannabis" industry, like the wine industry, today. I suspect that Napa Valley will become known for things other than wines.
Personally, I think it could be pretty cool. It will be another industry that would promote "back to the earth" values, like farming (except for the inevitable factory farming).
If we were really concerned about protecting people's health, we'd still be in prohibition, and tobacco would be 100% illegal, as would whole classes of junk food.
Re: Adults with history of recreational cannabis use have altered speech production
#35To point out the absurdity of this study using only 31 users with varying degrees of other types of drug use, as well as measuring some highly subjective metric, let me offer some purely anecdotal evidence that has a bigger sample size. I can name more than 31 rappers (try me) that have heavy, long-term cannabis use that have fast "speech timing", high "vocal quality", and low "vocal effort" compared to the general p…
So? It just shows that rapping might be an effective prevention therapy for this supposed effect.
It doesn't show that at all. It could mean that that profession selects people who are the best in the world at those things, and cannabis is entirely coincidental.
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#36The title seems like a stretch since they then go on to say, "Audio samples were analysed objectively using acoustic analysis for measures of timing, vocal control, and quality. Subtle differences in speech timing, vocal effort, and voice quality may exist between cannabis and control groups, however data remain equivocal." "After controlling for lifetime alcohol and tobacco use and applying a false discovery rate, o…
The sample size was also 31 users, 40 controls. This really isn't a meaningful result.
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#37Wow, is it really normal to publish results from such small sample sizes? This feels like tossing dice and publishing the result.
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#38Re: Adults with history of recreational cannabis use have altered speech production
#39The way America’s legalization effort has progressed has been really unfortunate. It seems as though no attempt at finding a middle ground was made, and consequently we wound up with complete legalization. Marijuana is an addictive highly potent mood altering substance that’s become available on demand with no real discussion about the consequences. Will anyone argue that having 15% of the otherwise young and product…
Here's a good analysis by the CATO institute, and the conclusion is that legalization has not had much of an impact in either the positive or negative direction. Until there's good data to support the idea that cannabis legalization is creating harms it's probably best to remain neutral. Both pro and anti cannabis sides are going of "feels", rather than facts it seems.
https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/effect-state-marijuana-...
Re: Adults with history of recreational cannabis use have altered speech production
#40The title seems like a stretch since they then go on to say, "Audio samples were analysed objectively using acoustic analysis for measures of timing, vocal control, and quality. Subtle differences in speech timing, vocal effort, and voice quality may exist between cannabis and control groups, however data remain equivocal." "After controlling for lifetime alcohol and tobacco use and applying a false discovery rate, o…
I feel like it’s more of a culture thing. You spend time with people who talk a certain way because of X reason and then you pick up their way of talking over time. This sounds like someone’s half assed attempt at a disertation for their graduate degree