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Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

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Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#101
I’d check with some of your peers and see what their experiences have been, but I wouldn’t be overly anxious just yet. In terms of timing, campus recruitment has an annual cycle. (We’ll hire year-round for entry-level, but for pretty obvious reasons, it’s seasonal in terms of the activity focus.) Right now, we’re reviewing the outcome of last year’s campus and intern programs, determining changes, and predicting budgets for next year’s program.

If you’re a May/June 2022 grad, don’t sweat it even a drop. If you’re a December 2021 grad, you’re a little off-cycle but campus programs know you exist so there’s a mini-wave for the half-year grads. But mid-August to late Sept is probably the lowest period for “mining inbound resumes” as the campus team has been busy wrapping up starting last year’s group and planning for the coming year (and taking summer PTO).

If you’re graduating from a CS program at a traditional college and have a 3.0 GPA or better, it’ll be stressful (because of the stakes), but you’ll find a role to take your first professional step. You don’t have to stand out per-se, which is good news because internships and summer work in the field is the best way to do that and that’s not practical in your last year. No worries. Can’t change it now and don’t need to. We take “cold” graduates as well. If you have a 2.5 or 2.2, it be a little more effort, but if you can do the work, you’ll find a fit. If you have a 3.8+ (at least in major and a 3.5 overall), you’re probably seeing only timing effects.

Talk to the campus placement people at your college as well. See what their advice is (especially if a Dec grad). Have them look over your resume for glaring issues. I suspect they’ll help you, both practically but also psychologically to reflect on the activity/calendar cycle.

(It’s also worth asking that group how “fresh” the job board is. Some of those listings could have been posted back in May and if you applied to them after an entire graduating class saw them, they’re either filled or the company is incapable to fill them and has given up on them.)

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's about the price - there is a shortage of people willing to work for 5-figure.

Although some places do find talent hard to source, at any price (see Microsoft's Bing team who have _really_ struggled to hire enough people to compete with Google)

And they've tried 'any price' (even not taking it facetiously literally)? What makes it so unattractive?

The prospect of working on Bing or at Microsoft wouldn't exactly excite me perhaps, but it'd only have to be the best paying (by some non-trivial but not massive amount) offer. (Or everything else less exciting!)

Perhaps you mean search engine experts, not grad entry or 'at any price' in that sense, so the pool they're looking at only wants to work on the biggest most exciting one, which happens also to be willing to hire all of them?

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#103

Get a LinkedIn premium subscription and ask alumni of your school for referrals. Just random alumni. I was given this advice and thought it was brazen and aggressive and that nobody would do it. I didn't after graduation. I was wrong and when I tried it later, it worked. And I ended up doing it for others who messaged me. Apply though the back door for VIPs. Plenty of people are happy to put you in. Random people on…

> Get a LinkedIn premium subscription How does this help with asking alumni of your school for referrals? Can't you do that with a regular account?

It allows you to bypass (some?) restrictions on who you can message.

Without it, I think you need at least to have a mutual connection. (Which wouldn't be that hard to achieve with fellow alumni.)

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#104
> As I am in my final year, I am getting a bit worried that my resume is kind of uninteresting.

It's the case for most people in your situation. You need to start somewhere.

> I'm afraid because I haven't bothered to work on mastering any of them that an employer wouldn't wanna take the risk on me being able to learn their stack.

Don't worry about that. In our field, it's common to learn new stacks many times in our career. The tech you'll work with in 10 years from now may not even exist yet.

My current company considers it takes 6 months to onboard a new employee.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#105
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First of all its not about standing out. In the vast majority of orgs, no one experienced expects some one fresh out of college to be a MASTER at anything. Most of them arent masters of anything either. So dont worry about that. Worry about location. If you AND all your friends in town arent getting responses - move. If you are sitting in the boondocks move closer to larger cities. Best case would be to move to the m…

Summary: It's now what you know that gets you the job. It's who knows you.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#106
I have no experience from the US, but from 2 European countries: Many CS students work part time as software developers. If they are not too bad that will give them a job offer nearly automatically when graduating. Of course working part time might delay graduation. Not a big deal here because there is no tuition.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#107
I am surprised to have not read this in other comments, but I would strongly recommend to pick a field or product you feel very passionate with and contact with [small/medium] companies showing a "job" page on their website (or even just contact).

As a fresh graduate, no one with common sense could expect you to have some experience, but if I had to recruit a junior team member, passion and eager to learn is what I would hunt for.

Oh and, don't worry about rejections or being ignored, it happened to most of us!

Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#108

Get a LinkedIn premium subscription and ask alumni of your school for referrals. Just random alumni. I was given this advice and thought it was brazen and aggressive and that nobody would do it. I didn't after graduation. I was wrong and when I tried it later, it worked. And I ended up doing it for others who messaged me. Apply though the back door for VIPs. Plenty of people are happy to put you in. Random people on…

> ...ask alumni of your school for referrals. Just random alumni.

When candidates do this to me I am happy to refer them after I personally screen their resume and I converse with them a little (written or verbal).

I don't refer someone unless I think it's worth my company spending money evaluating them.

I dislike the pushy candidates who believe this approach is a no-effort side door.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#109
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Are you customizing your resume to each job or sending out the same one? While it's a pain, it can be worth to customize your resume for each job description to highlight any relevant experience (even if just schoolwork) and keywords.

This is my experience. Rather than blindly sending out 200 applications, take that time to find 5-10 positions you think you’d be uniquely qualified for, given your skillset, and tailor your CV to each of them.

I did this and got interviews at every place I applied (straight out of undergrad), and offers from the majority of them.

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