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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by herbst »

project2501a wrote: post #315
photochemsyn wrote: post #62

When reviewing 9/11 attacks (likely the biggest and most disastrous intelligence failure in U.S. history, give or take Pearl Harbor), it's worth remembering that it could have been much worse. If the first plane had hit Indian Point nuclear reactor what, 30 miles from NYC and upwind? It's likely a Chernobyl/Fukushima disaster would have resulted with an exclusion zone well into NYC. That was reportedly part of the pl…

> done the regime change op in Saudi Arabia, how about "stop fucking with other countries", instead? maybe bring Kissinger to the international court?

From a naive bystander view it looks like a majority of war's and suffering in the world in my lifetime is just there because the US does not stop to enforce their crippled idea of democracy on other countries (and US oil interests).

Could be biased, could be propaganda, but I am for sure not alone thinking this.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by herbst »

yyyk wrote: post #236
maybelsyrup wrote: post #215

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> Funny how all responsibility is always given to the West even when the people doing the killing are their enemies. It's barely ever given to the west, and never in major media. And when someone in an anonymous internet comment dares suggest we might be morally accountable for vast amounts of innocent deaths - a trifle of a blip of a nothing in the discourse - we can count on certain people getting their feewings hu…

>It's barely ever given to the west, and never in major media You must be kidding, or never ever read any major Western media. > And when someone in an anonymous internet comment dares Oh no. Someone disagreed with you on the internet. It's horrible even thinking about this. Nobody should ever be victimized like this.

Not sure what you mean with western media. But ours (Swiss) usually blames the NATO and US for their war crimes and not a generalized 'west'

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by herbst »

sumedh wrote: post #396
ISL wrote: post #44

If watching this footage makes you want to stand up and do something, remember that Covid-19 is killing as many people in the US every two days as died in these attacks. Take small steps to make the world a better place, helping your neighbors, and you can take a stand against entropy.

> helping your neighbors How can you help the people who dont want vaccines? Are you going to force them to have it?

By still wearing a mask in enclosed places for example. We still have to work together, whatever anyone's opinion on vaxing is right now

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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farmerstan wrote: post #56
rebuilder wrote: post #22

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I’m not sure at all the pandemic is going to be more significant historically. The 9/11 attacks did what Al-Qaeda intended them to - got the USA mired in an expensive, unwinnable war, which ultimately broke the US will to fight and seems to have resulted in a major reconfiguration of US foreign policy.

This. Al qaeda won. They destroyed the way of American life before 9-11. We are a different country now. So much government control over the last 20 years because of the 9-11 like TSA, Patriot act, massive government surveillance all in the name of “Homeland Security”. Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers exist precisely because of 9-11. The distrust from all of the secret government acts is only part of the equation. The t…

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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by sumedh »

herbst wrote: post #463
sumedh wrote: post #396

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> helping your neighbors How can you help the people who dont want vaccines? Are you going to force them to have it?

By still wearing a mask in enclosed places for example. We still have to work together, whatever anyone's opinion on vaxing is right now

Why do you need to wear a mask when you are vaccinated?

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by herbst »

sumedh wrote: post #465
herbst wrote: post #463

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By still wearing a mask in enclosed places for example. We still have to work together, whatever anyone's opinion on vaxing is right now

Why do you need to wear a mask when you are vaccinated?

Because you don't want to spread a potentially deadly sickness to other people who might not have the choice (for whatever mental or health reason) to Vax?

If it were for me super markets should be mask only anyway. I hate old people and kids running around coughing at everything I maybe would have wanted to eat. Even before covid

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by kzzzznot »

gremloni wrote: post #322
photochemsyn wrote: post #62

When reviewing 9/11 attacks (likely the biggest and most disastrous intelligence failure in U.S. history, give or take Pearl Harbor), it's worth remembering that it could have been much worse. If the first plane had hit Indian Point nuclear reactor what, 30 miles from NYC and upwind? It's likely a Chernobyl/Fukushima disaster would have resulted with an exclusion zone well into NYC. That was reportedly part of the pl…

Saudi Arabia is not a regime. It’s the most powerful tribal family in a country of family/tribes all of whom have the same perspective. Never mind the fact that it’s a very rich country in country with obnoxious human rights abuses when it comes to migrant workers but still has no poverty. Even amongst the migrants. Not to mention that in my opinion they treat women exactly how they should be treated.

> Not to mention that in my opinion they treat women exactly how they should be treated.

How in your opinion should women be treated? You don’t think they should be considered equal to men?

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by sumedh »

herbst wrote: post #466
sumedh wrote: post #465

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Why do you need to wear a mask when you are vaccinated?

Because you don't want to spread a potentially deadly sickness to other people who might not have the choice (for whatever mental or health reason) to Vax? If it were for me super markets should be mask only anyway. I hate old people and kids running around coughing at everything I maybe would have wanted to eat. Even before covid

> potentially deadly sickness to other people who might not have the choice

Wait, so have you been wearing masks before Covid to protect other people who cannot be vaccinated for flu and other respiratory diseases?

If not then you are a hypocrite.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by herbst »

sumedh wrote: post #468
herbst wrote: post #466

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you don't want to spread a potentially deadly sickness to other people who might not have the choice (for whatever mental or health reason) to Vax? If it were for me super markets should be mask only anyway. I hate old people and kids running around coughing at everything I maybe would have wanted to eat. Even before covid

> potentially deadly sickness to other people who might not have the choice Wait, so have you been wearing masks before Covid to protect other people who cannot be vaccinated for flu and other respiratory diseases? If not then you are a hypocrite.

Not as often as I will now, mostly because of the strange looks. And usually not only because of others.

But yeah since I catched a bad case of regional flu in the Airport of Kuala Lumpur about 8 years ago I do wear masks in some situations. Especially when I feel sick but have to go out.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by sumedh »

herbst wrote: post #469
sumedh wrote: post #468

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> potentially deadly sickness to other people who might not have the choice Wait, so have you been wearing masks before Covid to protect other people who cannot be vaccinated for flu and other respiratory diseases? If not then you are a hypocrite.

Not as often as I will now, mostly because of the strange looks. And usually not only because of others. But yeah since I catched a bad case of regional flu in the Airport of Kuala Lumpur about 8 years ago I do wear masks in some situations. Especially when I feel sick but have to go out.

> Especially when I feel sick but have to go out.

So you dont follow your own advice by not wearing a mask when you are not sick and yet you expect others to do what you say. What is that saying "do as i say not as i do"

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