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Phony diagnoses hide high rates of drugging at nursing homes

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Re: Phony diagnoses hide high rates of drugging at nursing homes

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Post by crunchytartar »

glangdale wrote: post #70

The drugging in those places is an obscenity. If you're going to do that, you should be intentionally shortening people's lives with opiates, which at least is a lot more pleasant than getting loaded up with anti-psychotics to make people compliant. Unfortunately, the jig is generally up with that - everyone knows what opiates do. I'm seeing a lot of bullshit on all these threads from people who are doing the whole "…

> That's 24 hour home care - and it's not cheap

Why don't they just eat cake?

This is the good end of the spectrum. The other end is that the patient lives alone, soils his clothes and doesn't change them for months/ gets lost and becomes homeless, gets infected and dies an animals death. Most of the patients live closer to the bad end.

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Post by crunchytartar »

david-gpu wrote: post #49
koolba wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm terrified of growing old in this country. Have kids, raise them right, and you’ll be fine. It’s worked out pretty well for a couple thousand years.

Kids do not choose to be born. We can't expect them to serve us when we get old. They owe us nothing. We forced them into this world.

OPs childhood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q-6Y-e7HZI

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Post by phreack »

jac241 wrote: post #178
BingoAhoy wrote: post #32

Phony Diagnoses not just at nursing homes, also in mental facilities. Was really surprised (better word-traumatized) that one flippant casual mention of not valuing my life in a private text message was enough to to get me detained by police in a facility for a night. "Doctor" threatened me with drugging just because I refused to answer some of their questions and instead insisted on a lawyer. Funny how freedoms can…

This is literal survivorship bias. I'm sure there are many people who are no longer alive because people did not take their texts seriously. I can easily imagine someone posting something just like this from the other side of the coin.

I can't possibly imagine how trauma, torture and debt can at all help with suicidal ideation. It sounds barbaric.

Re: Phony diagnoses hide high rates of drugging at nursing homes

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Post by crunchytartar »

the_rectifier wrote: post #119
david-gpu wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kids do not choose to be born. We can't expect them to serve us when we get old. They owe us nothing. We forced them into this world.

The cynicism in the other answers is appalling. Treating people like investments...

Honest question, how old are you?

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Post by connicpu »

msrenee wrote: post #177
simfree wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haldol, Benadryl and one other drug are part of the common rotation used by nurses to sedate troublesome patients so they can skate out of handling said patient during their shift. When said patient regains control of their faculties they are often confused and angry as a day is missing from their memory.

So if you were writing an article about benedryl, you would feel comfortable describing it as a powerful sedative?

It is with a high enough dosage, which nurses using it to knock out patients presumably are using

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Post by kook_throwaway »

nohuck13 wrote: post #107
BingoAhoy wrote: post #32

Phony Diagnoses not just at nursing homes, also in mental facilities. Was really surprised (better word-traumatized) that one flippant casual mention of not valuing my life in a private text message was enough to to get me detained by police in a facility for a night. "Doctor" threatened me with drugging just because I refused to answer some of their questions and instead insisted on a lawyer. Funny how freedoms can…

"detained...for a night" "freedoms can be taken away so dubiously even when not charged of a crime nor arrested in a system that exists outside the criminal system" I'm sorry this happened to you. Not defending it, but I don't think it's fair to say your experience represents some runaway extra-judicial outcome. For better or worse, in the US, a judge's approval is required to detain someone in a psychiatric facility…

>I don't think it's fair to say your experience represents some runaway extra-judicial outcome.

Being involuntarily committed makes you a "prohibited person" and includes a lifetime ban on owning a firearm.[1] It wouldn't surprise me if there were other strings attached to having that on your record too.

[1] https://uclawreview.org/2021/08/18/pulling-the-trigger-on-am...

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Post by vsareto »

thetruthisout wrote: post #203

And yet, these are the "experts"/"doctors" that the Americans trust when it comes to telling them that they need to get vaccinated.

I've never made a phony diagnosis or incorrectly prescribed anti-psychotics in my life or made any medical errors of any kind so clearly I'm perfect. You should trust me when I say that you should get vaccinated.

Re: Phony diagnoses hide high rates of drugging at nursing homes

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Post by Bud »

Just another devastating indictment of our entire philosophy of how we handle health care in the US—to wit, cynically, and as a profit center—versus basically every single other advanced nation.

How many horrifying examples do we need to see before we change it?

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