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Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

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Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#21
Get a LinkedIn premium subscription and ask alumni of your school for referrals. Just random alumni.

I was given this advice and thought it was brazen and aggressive and that nobody would do it. I didn't after graduation. I was wrong and when I tried it later, it worked. And I ended up doing it for others who messaged me.

Apply though the back door for VIPs. Plenty of people are happy to put you in. Random people on Hacker News have referred me. Random people from whoishiring threads have been willing to ensure I got an interview.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#22

Unfortunately you are going about your question the wrong way. Outside of what pg5 user already mentioned, there is probably only 1 more thing you can do. Employers want problem solvers and people with skills. You may not be able to offer that just yet. So, you need to instead demonstrate you are worthy of investment. That you are hungry to learn. That is generally not a quality or a byline on a resume. Being worthy…

For a small software company or startup application, a cover letter with something personalised to that company would stand out. I’m thinking spend 15 minutes in the dev console, spot something that can be improved or optimised or maybe a security issue, or maybe something elegant the site does or just list their tech stack, then mention it in a constructive way and that’s show a lot of initiative plus the kind of skills you’d need. If it doesn’t work the bonus is you’d learn something in that time and every thing practical you learn becomes an interview question you can answer well down the line.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#23
post #8

Why is it simultaneously so hard to hire software engineers and so hard for new ones to find a job?

It behooves a company to miss at least twenty good candidates if it means avoiding hiring one bad one. A bad hire can utterly destroy a company. See the fiasco with Timnit Gebru.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#24

Get a LinkedIn premium subscription and ask alumni of your school for referrals. Just random alumni. I was given this advice and thought it was brazen and aggressive and that nobody would do it. I didn't after graduation. I was wrong and when I tried it later, it worked. And I ended up doing it for others who messaged me. Apply though the back door for VIPs. Plenty of people are happy to put you in. Random people on…

This works and demonstrates two desirable traits: confidence or courage to overcome apprehension and a growth mindset willing to work at actively searching for work. I prefer to hear directly from new grads than recruiters any day of the week.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#25
Bigger, name brand tech companies have way more applicants than they can accept so they have a crude recruiter funnel that is tossing out resumes for any reason they can find. They're literally trying to turn thousands of resumes from hundreds of schools into curated packets of dozens of candidates. But recruiters don't know a thing about software engineering. At best they can keyword match a few buzzwords they got from some VP of engineering who hasn't actually coded anything in 20 years (if ever). If you don't have the right 3-4 signals (school and program prestige, internship number and prestige, GPA) it's in the bin you go. The actual front line hiring managers won't even see your resume.

Try applying to smaller companies. Smaller companies aren't going to land the candidate from a top 10 school who already interned at multiple Fortune 500 companies. But small shops need to hire talent too. They're digging deeper and they have to read the resumes more closely. There isn't much of an HR department, and the hiring manager might be sifting through the raw resumes themselves.

If you still want to land a big company job, you're going to need to bypass the HR filter by finding a direct line to the hiring managers. Maybe you have some friends or alumni you've met who are at the company and can refer you directly to a team. You can meet these people at networking events, recruiting fairs, or other social activities. Creativity, determination, and luck play a big factor.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#26
Google top venture capital firms and look at their portfolio companies. Find a few that are early (series a-c) to target. Pick ones that resonate with you.

Venture capital firms do tons of due diligence, and if you join early enough, when an exit happens it could be a big payday.

Write to them about why they resonate with you. Use LinkedIn to find out the right person to message. Your goal is to get into the interview pipeline.

Be eager. Enthusiasm counts for a lot. If you’re thoughtful and personable, foot in the door is all you need.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#27
View it as a software engineering problem. You're there to learn from what responses you get (and early on it'll be a numbers game) and refine your approach. Then you can iterate based on how interviews go.

Any entry-level or graduate position is going to have to train you, good employers know and acknowledge this. Really there's always an element of learning how things are done when entering a new business.

Don't worry too much about job fit. Be broader than you might feel you need to be. Highlight relevant experience for individual jobs. If it's a python job, put your python projects first (for example).

Single page resume, no picture. Find an attractive template and use it.

You can use a section on technology interests to add more technology and express keenness for particular topics. Especially since you're soon to graduate.

Beyond all that, hiring is a high variance activity. There's a lot of randomness with how people review resumes and what will stick out for them. Don't get discouraged.

Re: Ask HN: Graduating CS soon, how do I find a job?

#28
It depends on your country. If you are in India then do not worry. There is clearly more demand than supply for software developers. You have just got to apply in some promising startups, maybe try some platforms such as HackerEarth. I have seen that a good linkedin profile also helps.
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