Rural hospital full of clearly unqualified medical staff. Who cares? I would not want my wife giving birth there covid or not.
What makes them unqualified?
The refusal of basic germ theory and medical science?
NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
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Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are right that obese people do not directly affect my health. Neither does my vaccination status directly affect yours because vaccinated people spread the virus too. Obese people do affect my health if they take a hospital bed that I could have used when I need it. Isn't that one of the same arguments applied to the unvaccinated? If we didn't have so many obese people, would the hospitals be overloaded? Would we…
If you say so. Good luck on winning the Darwin Award: looks like you’re a strong competitor.
Nope, I'm not obese. I exercise everyday and eat right. I am a very bad competitor for it, especially since the survivability of COVID is so high. I may not even be eligible; I'd have to check.
I don't know what to tell you if I look like a good competitor to you.
Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#63So it’s mandatory abortions then? Must be in response to Texas.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
What sort of monsters would willingly subject peaceful, healthy, informed strangers to state-mandated medication, under threat of impoverishment and ostracism?
> ostracism That seems like the appropriate peaceable response by a society to someone choosing to become a potential walking threat to all those around them.
I encourage everyone to get vaccinated if they can, but vaccinated people are also potential walking threats to all those around them. There appears to be some reduction in the risk of transmission but the magnitude is unclear.
Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#65Side story: In the school district where I work all employees are now required to be vaccinated or take a weekly test. Our district hired a nurse to do weekly testing in the district main office to any employees that were not vaccinated. The day before we were to begin testing the state informed us we are not allowed to test on our own premises. Employees must schedule their own covid test on their own time. It also…
> It really seems like plans, expectations, regulations are constantly shifting ….almost like by design to cause systems/organizations to fail.
James Lindsay - of the hoax grievance studies [0] fame - talks about this in a lengthy series of netcasts [1] based around Herbert Marcuse's "An essay on liberation" [2]. According to his explanation these irrational and often counterproductive policies are part of an attempt to provide the conditions which would enable the creation of a new society based on "stakeholder capitalism" along the lines of Schwab's "Fourth Industrial Revolution" [3].
Read the essay - it is quite dense - and listen to Lindsay's thoughts on what Marcuse means to current affairs. Do it in that order to make sure you know what he is talking about, he sometimes stumbles over sentences and does not really know the German language at all while the original is written in that language and this translation still contains a number of German words. Form your own conclusion as to whether Lindsay is right in seeing Marcuse's take on the future of Marxist ideology reflected in current affairs.
[0] https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/new-sokal-...
[0] https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studi...
[1] https://newdiscourses.com/2021/06/biological-foundation-soci...
[1] https://newdiscourses.com/2021/07/herbert-marcuses-new-sensi...
[1] https://newdiscourses.com/2021/08/marcuses-subverting-forces...
[1] https://newdiscourses.com/2021/09/herbert-marcuse-catastroph...
[2] https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/marcuse/works/196...
[3] https://www.weforum.org/about/the-fourth-industrial-revoluti...
Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you say so. Good luck on winning the Darwin Award: looks like you’re a strong competitor.
Nope, I'm not obese. I exercise everyday and eat right. I am a very bad competitor for it, especially since the survivability of COVID is so high. I may not even be eligible; I'd have to check. I don't know what to tell you if I look like a good competitor to you.
Like I said a troll. Or willfully blind. Yeah, your odds are good. But your odds would be much better if you could put your big boy pants on and get a shot without a tantrum. And if your number is up, you can be proud of not being fat right up to the moment you’re intubated.
Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope, I'm not obese. I exercise everyday and eat right. I am a very bad competitor for it, especially since the survivability of COVID is so high. I may not even be eligible; I'd have to check. I don't know what to tell you if I look like a good competitor to you.
Like I said a troll. Or willfully blind. Yeah, your odds are good. But your odds would be much better if you could put your big boy pants on and get a shot without a tantrum. And if your number is up, you can be proud of not being fat right up to the moment you’re intubated.
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Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
A healthcare professional who may already have antibodies from prior infection, and who therefore does not need a vaccine, perhaps.
I’ve heard that many (most?) hospitals require that staff either wears a mask or gets the flu shot every year. Do these hospitals waive that requirement for people if they come down with the flu?
Yup, the healthcare system I work for requires Flu vax for everyone. Including back office folks like me. They have for years now.
Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#69What sort of monsters would willingly subject newborns to any additional risk of Covid?
A healthcare professional who may already have antibodies from prior infection, and who therefore does not need a vaccine, perhaps.
That’s just covid - what about all the other diseases like polio, tb, pertussis, chicken pox…
Would you expect healthcare workers to be vaccinated against those ? Or should they wait to get the natural antibodies?
Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate
#70Would you really want your baby to be delivered by anti-vaxxers?
For the people who answer "yes", this is the same as asking if you would let a builder that doesn't believe that asbestos is dangerous to build your house. Professionals that go by beliefs when the facts are readily available are not behaving like professionals.
Let their personal beliefs decide which m&m flavor they like, not medical procedures.