If watching this footage makes you want to stand up and do something, remember that Covid-19 is killing as many people in the US every two days as died in these attacks. Take small steps to make the world a better place, helping your neighbors, and you can take a stand against entropy.
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#332synchronized instead of syncrhonized
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#333If watching this footage makes you want to stand up and do something, remember that Covid-19 is killing as many people in the US every two days as died in these attacks. Take small steps to make the world a better place, helping your neighbors, and you can take a stand against entropy.
Please. This is just going to create more toxic conversation and politics. Can we just focus on 9/11 victims and mourne peacefully? Rest of the top level comments here are sharing stories about their personal experience. I know you mean well but its the wrong place to bring this up.
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Also after he publicly confessed, not to mention his previous crimes. Their refusal had nothing to do with 'evidence'. " Source? Bin Laden initially declined responsibility, saying his hosts the taliban, would not allow such a operation. (surely not out of being nice, but because of wanting to keep the power) And later (after he confessed) the US was on full war with the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden not with them any…
>And later (after he confessed) the US was on full war with the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden not with them anymore. I'm referring to that, not to his preinasvion evasion. The Taliban didn't even cut relations with him or his associates after he confessed, and they were not without influence in AfPak. Surely the Taliban should have been very upset with their 'guests' for getting them involved in Al-Qaeda's war, right?…
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#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
>And later (after he confessed) the US was on full war with the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden not with them anymore. I'm referring to that, not to his preinasvion evasion. The Taliban didn't even cut relations with him or his associates after he confessed, and they were not without influence in AfPak. Surely the Taliban should have been very upset with their 'guests' for getting them involved in Al-Qaeda's war, right?…
"Surely the Taliban should have been very upset with their 'guests' for getting them involved in Al-Qaeda's war, right? " I am pretty sure, they were upset and maybe there were actual heads rolling behind the scenes. But on the outside, they had the US as common enemy. An enemy that hit them both as hard as he could, without making any difference. So of course at that time, talking about extradiction was over. But th…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud#Assassinati...
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#336When reviewing 9/11 attacks (likely the biggest and most disastrous intelligence failure in U.S. history, give or take Pearl Harbor), it's worth remembering that it could have been much worse. If the first plane had hit Indian Point nuclear reactor what, 30 miles from NYC and upwind? It's likely a Chernobyl/Fukushima disaster would have resulted with an exclusion zone well into NYC. That was reportedly part of the pl…
Saudi Arabia is not a regime. It’s the most powerful tribal family in a country of family/tribes all of whom have the same perspective. Never mind the fact that it’s a very rich country in country with obnoxious human rights abuses when it comes to migrant workers but still has no poverty. Even amongst the migrants. Not to mention that in my opinion they treat women exactly how they should be treated.
Yes, it has a regime.
> It’s the most powerful tribal family in a country of family/tribes all of whom have the same perspective.
Yes, the House of Saud is that, except not all the family/tribes have the same perspective (heck, even the House of Saud isn't internally super cohesive, though MBS’ recent internal purges and the implicit threat of more have reduced the degree of active viewpoint diversity within the House of Saud and Saudi elites more generally.)
> Never mind the fact that it’s a very rich country in country with obnoxious human rights abuses when it comes to migrant workers but still has no poverty. Even amongst the migrants.
Saudi Arabia has a low reported poverty rate (but not zero; 12.7%) but it's reporting is irregular and unreliable, and is generally held to underestimate poverty significantly in general. Poverty estimates among the migrants make up the bar majority of the labor force (and the vast majority of the low-skill labor force) are very high.
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#337“yes, we are at war. This is our generation's Pearl Harbor.”
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#338If watching this footage makes you want to stand up and do something, remember that Covid-19 is killing as many people in the US every two days as died in these attacks. Take small steps to make the world a better place, helping your neighbors, and you can take a stand against entropy.
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#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
So heart disease and cancer don't take up ICU beds?
COVID is incredibly dangerous primarily because of how it is spread, not primarily because sick people are taking up hospital beds. The pandemic is first and foremost a health issue, not a resource issue.
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#340When reviewing 9/11 attacks (likely the biggest and most disastrous intelligence failure in U.S. history, give or take Pearl Harbor), it's worth remembering that it could have been much worse. If the first plane had hit Indian Point nuclear reactor what, 30 miles from NYC and upwind? It's likely a Chernobyl/Fukushima disaster would have resulted with an exclusion zone well into NYC. That was reportedly part of the pl…
Re: Indian Point - containment buildings are pretty armoured by design. The Indian point containment vessel walls are several feet of high-grade steel reinforced concrete. You might be thinking of the skinny, low quality rebar used in common construction at this point - this isn’t that, the rebar here is 2.25 inches thick, made of good-quality steel, and spaced every fifteen inches or so. The containment building is…
However, I always wondered if a large civilian plane like a 747 with a speed close to Mach 1 creates more or less impact. The 747 is ~12 times heavier, but it's also less than half the speed and spreads the impact across a much larger area.