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Re: A stranger secretly lived in my home

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Post by lisper »

anm89 wrote: post #88
lisper wrote: post #85

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> there are no "people who structure society" in a meaningful sense That is ridiculous. Our society is governed by laws and social norms. Those are not handed down from heaven by the gods, they are made by people. Yes, it's true that "the people who structure society" is not a small or easily-identifiable group. That doesn't mean that this group of people does not exist. It most assuredly does (and if you are on HN y…

If all of HN is in this group than the group is so large as to be meaningless. 1% of all Americans is more than 3 million people. I certainly don't wake up in the morning and ordain where people get there food from even if I'm an incremental part of structures that have some influence on the economics of America (all voters are) > That doesn't mean that this group of people does not exist. This logic sounds a whole l…

That is equally ridiculous. A group does not become meaningless once it gets beyond a certain size. The Republican Party is very large. That does not make it meaningless.

Re: A stranger secretly lived in my home

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Post by grkvlt »

throw1234651234 wrote: post #42
pbourke wrote: post #36

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Or at least a meal from the restaurant.

Yea, there is that aspect of it. Ideally, I will go buy them a meal, so they can't use the money for other things. I personally don't indulge in "other things", but I don't know how concerned I am about them using the money for that either. I think it's very, very difficult for someone digging through trash to get their life together, so if they indulge, they indulge. Note that it's not a comment on their character o…

if you give someone begging on the street with a drug habit money that they use for drugs, they either won't have to steal to fund their habit or they won't suffer through painful drug withdrawl, neither of which is good (the first for society, the second for them) so there's that. whether it'd be the ethically correct thing to refuse just because you don't approve of drug use is a complicated question...

Re: A stranger secretly lived in my home

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Post by AussieWog93 »

Scarblac wrote: post #45
stevezsa8 wrote: post #31

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Your office got off lucky. We had a guy walk into our office behind employees. No one challenged the trespasser... he walked off with a stack of laptops.

As a teenager I worked in a large logistics center for supermarkets. Usually we would fill trucks that brought the supplies to the supermarkets, but rarely they had ran out of something small and would come to us with a van or so. So one day two guys drive up with a van, park it at a loading dock, go into the warehouse and start loading the van with coffee. They even got help from some workers. Turns out they weren't…

>So one day two guys drive up with a van, park it at a loading dock, go into the warehouse and start loading the van with coffee. They even got help from some workers.

Reminds me of that scene from Trailer Park Boys

https://youtu.be/8d-bM-Whsmk

Re: A stranger secretly lived in my home

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Post by nsxwolf »

whirlingdervish wrote: post #24

A couple years ago one of the devs I work with came in to the office very early for some reason and discovered a man sleeping in one of the conference rooms. After the fact we discovered that an emergency exit door wasn’t locking properly. He didn’t take anything even though he could have easily made off with tens of thousands of dollars of electronics. He just needed somewhere to sleep.

He also might have attacked or raped someone. That is not a safe situation. It’s not just about property.

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Post by nsxwolf »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #46
stevezsa8 wrote: post #31

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Your office got off lucky. We had a guy walk into our office behind employees. No one challenged the trespasser... he walked off with a stack of laptops.

> Your office got off lucky. I disagree. Sleeper guy wanted to crash & didn't want their hardware. There wasn't meaningful risk. I think we make the mistake that perceiving risk makes it real. It's reality that determines our actual risk tho.

Did you ask the women in your office how they felt about that incident?

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Post by rkk3 »

pen2l wrote: post #7
georgewsinger wrote: post #3

This read like it could have been a chapter out of a Stephen King novel, until the stranger saved the puppy: > I got a puppy. While she was being toilet-trained, I kept her in the bathroom. One day, when I was out, the apartment flooded. I came home to find the puppy in the sink. She was tiny. I didn’t know how she could have got up there unless someone had put her there to save her.

I visited SanFran a couple of years ago, and this reminded me of a homeless guy, in his late 60s I imagine, that I saw at a fast food chain. So I was I think at in-and-out, and a homeless guy was going through the garbage bin to find food. When I came over to dump my stuff in the bin, he was immediately considerate and stepped aside so I could dump the covers and napkins, whilst making sibilant sounds and keeping his…

> I remember thinking, well, he smelled and I tried to avoid physical contact, but was there really a need to make him leave

A homeless person was going through the garbage in the middle of a fast food restaurant... yeah, I assume that would be off-putting to customers & detrimental to their business.

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Post by uberduper »

nsxwolf wrote: post #95
whirlingdervish wrote: post #24

A couple years ago one of the devs I work with came in to the office very early for some reason and discovered a man sleeping in one of the conference rooms. After the fact we discovered that an emergency exit door wasn’t locking properly. He didn’t take anything even though he could have easily made off with tens of thousands of dollars of electronics. He just needed somewhere to sleep.

He also might have attacked or raped someone. That is not a safe situation. It’s not just about property.

That's a bit of a leap, isn't it? Couldn't you say the same thing about every person you meet?

Re: A stranger secretly lived in my home

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Post by jacquesm »

I had a tacit agreement with a homeless guy I discovered one day sleeping in my car. I'll keep the doors unlocked and you don't mess it up and by 7 am you're gone. He was by far the best tenant I ever had, we did this for close to two years and then I moved. The area where I lived was an older industrial zone in the East of Amsterdam, there wasn't a whole lot around there other than a salvation army post and I figured he liked the backseat of my Citroen DS better than the cots and 4-to-a-room arrangement that they had there.

Re: A stranger secretly lived in my home

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Post by fires10 »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #74
bloodguard wrote: post #69

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We had an AC tech ask us if we knew someone was living on our roof. Turns out an coworker's GF kicked him out of his house* and he was living up there. Tent, free wifi, showers next to the bike room, full kitchen and big 80 inch TVs down in the conference rooms. He was livin' the life. He said he usually took down the tent and hid everything every morning but just got complacent. *Yes. His house. She told the cops sh…

> Yes. His house. She told the cops she felt in danger. Cops told him he had to stay somewhere else and go through the eviction process. Mad world. The pendulum needed to swing toward protecting women by default. As these things happen, it may have swung to a point where nuance needs to be applied. Your example seems fairly complex. I couldn't opine on it w/o knowing the details of the complaint. I can offer a differ…

I wish that was an option. I've been there with mine.
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