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Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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amazing how cloudflare has framed this anticompetitve move as a privacy thing. it doesn't matter if your dns resolver leaks part of your ip address to archive.is's dns servers when you're about to connect to archive.is from your ip address anyway. the only thing dropping the edns client subnet does is prevent services you use from giving you a server that's closer to you when you do the dns lookup. this performance i…

Just so we’re on the same page: Cloudflare decided globally not to include client IP in the EDNS data. Then archive.is decided to block Cloudflare’s resolvers from getting accurate records for their site.

To circumvent this, Cloudflare would have to reverse their global stance or make a special exception to satisfy archive.is.

It’s unclear how we could draw “anticompetitive” from this.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people that run the Pirate Bay went to prison for operating that site, despite not hosting any illegal content there themselves. Archive.is faces similar impedance mismatch with what different people and courts believe about intellectual property. When's the last time you went to prison for something you believe in?

What does the Pirate Bay have to do with anything? Who went to prison here?

The point is more about what could happen when breaking laws in other countries than what did happen in this particular case.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does the Pirate Bay have to do with anything? Who went to prison here?

The point is more about what could happen when breaking laws in other countries than what did happen in this particular case.

So it's a completely pointless non-sequitur then. The border agents could've shot him to death where he stood for all that it matters.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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post #22

amazing how cloudflare has framed this anticompetitve move as a privacy thing. it doesn't matter if your dns resolver leaks part of your ip address to archive.is's dns servers when you're about to connect to archive.is from your ip address anyway. the only thing dropping the edns client subnet does is prevent services you use from giving you a server that's closer to you when you do the dns lookup. this performance i…

Just so we’re on the same page: Cloudflare decided globally not to include client IP in the EDNS data. Then archive.is decided to block Cloudflare’s resolvers from getting accurate records for their site. To circumvent this, Cloudflare would have to reverse their global stance or make a special exception to satisfy archive.is. It’s unclear how we could draw “anticompetitive” from this.

Understood, but why? Privacy is not an acceptable answer for the reasons OP stated. If Cloudflare gave a coherent, understandable reason, I'd probably be more on their side.

"Trust us, our network is big enough it will route right" is both not a good answer, nor true.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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Archive.is is unironically one of the most important websites in the world. I hope this mess gets fixed but I am not holding my breath because we are in the same position for years now. Interesting read on the probable owner of the site : https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/149405

Linked in Profile does not exit anymore. But "Bachelor of Engineering Bachelor at the Humboldt University of Berlin." This sounds fishy. I am not sure that you can get an Engineering degree at this University.

Currently only B.A. and B.Sc. as per their studying guide.

I don't know whether on the past there was some way to obtain said degree.

Edit: A different Bachelors besides those two are incredibly rare in Germany. For full universities (not universities of applied science) doubly so.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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Out of curiosity - not defending the behavior - what kind of problems could omitting EDNS cause? What is the steelman case for Archive.is here?

The author says Archive.is's claim that it causes problems is "questionable", but he doesn't mention what those purported problems are or address why they're illegitimate, so it's hard to evaluate whether that's accurate.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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post #4

Archive.is is unironically one of the most important websites in the world. I hope this mess gets fixed but I am not holding my breath because we are in the same position for years now. Interesting read on the probable owner of the site : https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/149405

That reads a lot like doxxing; if someone isn't open about their identity, they don't want it out, and doing sleuthing work like this (or linking to it) can be considered doxxing. If archive.is hosts content that has been removed due to oppressive regimes' policies (including western ones), exposing their identity may put them at risk.

That would be security by obscurity- something which the creator of such an important website does not have the privilege of relying on.

Re: Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019)

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post #13
post #4

Archive.is is unironically one of the most important websites in the world. I hope this mess gets fixed but I am not holding my breath because we are in the same position for years now. Interesting read on the probable owner of the site : https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/149405

Linked in Profile does not exit anymore. But "Bachelor of Engineering Bachelor at the Humboldt University of Berlin." This sounds fishy. I am not sure that you can get an Engineering degree at this University.

Is “Informatics” a Bachelor of Engineering?

https://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/de/studium/Master

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