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NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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That's a myth, though. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...

There is no way that we could know whether that's a myth simply because the vaccines have not existed long enough to know for sure.

By that logic, we could also argue—with the same degree of certainty—that the virus itself causes fertility issues, and therefore the vaccine prevents them.

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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How many colds have you had?

Cold only very rarely kills babies. If we're going to do analogies then let's go all the way. Here on HN there was an article about how people who got through Covid were much more resistant to catching it again, compared to those who got a vaccine. It's almost as if their immune systems actually work! I despair for the people who got surprised by this, as if our immune systems became a thing only during the last 2 ye…

What is tiring is the insistence of folks like you completely ignoring the 650,000 deaths in the US alone. Deaths that are climbing to a rate not seen since the spike last winter yet and this recent surge could have been avoided if this vocal misinformed anti-vax minority would have protected themselves, their loved ones, and their community with a jab. So yes, the rest of us are pretty tired of the virtue signaling but not the one you think you are calling out...

Ask your immune system how well it would have done vs Smallpox Diphtheria Hepatitis A&B Meningitis Measles Mumps Polio Pneumonia Rotavirus Rubella Tetanus Whooping Cough

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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A healthcare professional who may already have antibodies from prior infection, and who therefore does not need a vaccine, perhaps.

I’ve heard that many (most?) hospitals require that staff either wears a mask or gets the flu shot every year. Do these hospitals waive that requirement for people if they come down with the flu?

Influenza is special when it comes to mutations, so I wouldn't expect them to waive the flu vaccinations but I also don't think it directly relates to sars-cov2.

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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Would you really want your baby to be delivered by anti-vaxxers?

Would I want my newborn child to be exposed to an idiot who decided against basic common sense decisions regarding disease prevention?

No, I don't think that I would.

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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What sort of monsters would willingly subject peaceful, healthy, informed strangers to state-mandated medication, under threat of impoverishment and ostracism?

> state-mandated Is is state-mandated or private-company-mandated? > informed Yeah you're going to have to work a little harder in order to get that one accepted. > Strangers They are people who are in constant contact with very vulnerable group. Personal liberty ends where other person's liberty begins.

1. Not sure about this particular case but it's on the horizon if not.

2. According to the article, 20 of the 30 were employed in "clinical positions like nurses, therapists and technicians". These are literally healthcare professionals.

3. I agree: mandatory (including coerced) vaccinations are hideously immoral.

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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Would you really want your baby to be delivered by anti-vaxxers?

I would prefer my child to be delivered by someone who knows how to deliver babies. I would not care about their gender, their race, their sexual proclivities. I would not who they voted for, what music they listen to, where our not they believe we land on the moon. I would not care if the hate the measles vaccine. Or are against taking a brand new vaccine. Why would I? Are you afraid what the nurse thinks will someone get absorbed by the child? I would only care that they know what they are doing, and perhaps the method they chose to do it

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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There is no way that we could know whether that's a myth simply because the vaccines have not existed long enough to know for sure.

By that logic, we could also argue—with the same degree of certainty—that the virus itself causes fertility issues, and therefore the vaccine prevents them.

The vaccine does not prevent transmission of the virus though. I'm not entirely sure what it supposedly does, in truth (reduce serious symptoms by a statistically-insignificant amount in over-80s?).

Re: NY hospital to pause baby deliveries after staffers quit over vaccine mandate

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Side story: In the school district where I work all employees are now required to be vaccinated or take a weekly test. Our district hired a nurse to do weekly testing in the district main office to any employees that were not vaccinated. The day before we were to begin testing the state informed us we are not allowed to test on our own premises. Employees must schedule their own covid test on their own time. It also…

The brilliant thing about this strategy is you have a bunch of unvaccinated people who probably aren't infected and a bunch of vaccinated people who have a larger likelihood of being infected
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