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Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

#141

A social media platform refused to let you advertise a competing social media platform. Is this really news? Isn't this just business as usual in corporate America?

If this is the case its actually anti-competitive and supposed to be against the law. Obviously there is a difference between braking the law and getting caught though.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Yes, Facebook's upper management is definitely not freaking out about Mastodon. However, from my own experience working at a large, somewhat ethically-challenged organisation (not fb), it would not surprise me in the least if they gently yet actively pushed down a competitor, provided it can be done discreetly.

Doubt it, not worth the liabillity risk.

https://techcrunch.com/2015/12/01/whatsapp-is-blocking-links...

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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I doubt anyone at Facebook is freaking out about Mastodon and setting out to censor all mention of it. It's probably just a keyword or link that tends to co-appear with other, actually rule-breaking content, and some automated system has learned to block it. Still, it does seem like the sort of thing that could get Facebook in trouble with a regulator if you squint at it.

Yes, Facebook's upper management is definitely not freaking out about Mastodon. However, from my own experience working at a large, somewhat ethically-challenged organisation (not fb), it would not surprise me in the least if they gently yet actively pushed down a competitor, provided it can be done discreetly.

There may be more reasons to see Mastodon as a potential threat. There's something of a different paradigm to it. First of all it is decentralized (federated), and anyone can spin up servers for themself or a community of users, set their own topic and rules (CoC, ToS) and connect with the larger social network (the Fediverse). Second of all this fediverse is based on open-standards and anyone can develop their own social apps and integrate them with others. Mastodon just happens to be the most popular / well-known. Other apps, such as Pixelfed and Peertube offer nice, ad-free, and 'calmer' experiences to their large-scale social media alternatives (Instagram and Youtube). See https://fediverse.party/

Also note that Twitter has taken an interest in decentralized protocols with Bluesky project.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

#146

Interesting how "because COVID" has become the thinly veiled excuse here. A similar manifestation of the "think of the children" trope that can be used to manipulate emotions and shut down dissent.

> Interesting how "because COVID" has become the thinly veiled excuse here.

The message says it triggered spam filters. It's not related to COVID misinformation.

The only place COVID appears is in the warning that their manual review queues are longer than normal due to COVID.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Sounds anti-competitive in the UK. Using dominant market power to censor.

That is a weird UK rule then. In the US the common issues are things like tying, predatory pricing, exclusive dealing, loyalty discounts, bundling etc. Allowing competitors onto your own platform is an unusual requirement in UK I think - I haven't seen a case like that in US but don't follow closely.

Communication platforms are a bit different. Nobody would be okay with Comcast blocking the signup page or mentions of Google Fiber or your municipal broadbrand network, or Verizon disconnecting your call if you mention AT&T.

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No data clearly indicates that there is no data. A statement of "I don't know' clearly indicates a lack of knowledge. A statemnt of "I have no opinion" clearly indicates that the speaker has not formed an opinion. In each case, a spurious generated response: 1. Is generally accepted as prima facie evidence of what it purports. 2. Must be specifically analysed and assessed. 3. Is itself subject to repetition and/or am…

Data that's had data censored from it is bad data.

False.

Outlier exclusion is standard practice.

It's useful to note what is excluded. But you exclude bad data from the analysis.

Remember that what you're interested in is not the data but the ground truth that the data represent. This means that the full transmission chain must be reliable and its integrity assured: phenomenon, generated signal, transmission channel, receiver, sensor, interpretation, and recording.

Noise may enter at any point. And that noise has ... exceedingly little value.

Deliberately inserted noise is one of the most effective ways to thwart an accurate assessment of ground truths.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Facebook's upper management is definitely not freaking out about Mastodon. However, from my own experience working at a large, somewhat ethically-challenged organisation (not fb), it would not surprise me in the least if they gently yet actively pushed down a competitor, provided it can be done discreetly.

Mastodon is a “competitor” to Facebook the way a grandma doing middle school tutoring in her backyard is a competitor to Harvard.

... and Instagram was just a photo sharing app - how could it ever compete with Facebook?

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds anti-competitive in the UK. Using dominant market power to censor.

That is a weird UK rule then. In the US the common issues are things like tying, predatory pricing, exclusive dealing, loyalty discounts, bundling etc. Allowing competitors onto your own platform is an unusual requirement in UK I think - I haven't seen a case like that in US but don't follow closely.

It's always worth remembering that the European and American legal philosophy on anticompetitive markets are different, and lead to different conclusions.

European law tends to favor maximizing competitors. American law tends to favor maximizing consumer value. At first glance, these can be considered equivalent, but they differ at the margins (which is why, for example, Amazon keeps getting hit with antitrust in France but not in the US).

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