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Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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The notion that there are sides and not a web of gradients is built on caricatures. It's the same kind of thinking that makes people believe the color painted over a state on the news tells you anything about an individual there.

The notion that there are sides and not a web of gradients (in the US) is built on polls. The real mystery I want an answer to is why the country us split 50/50 on almost everything.

Even a very well-designed poll has limited resolution on an individual's views.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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yes, my question is, WHAT should have tipped the journalists off? If this was some elaborate puzzle what were the actual clues? or are they just supposed to dismiss anything that "sounds" unusual. And that goes for both cases, the bounty hunters and the trans one. Your article claims it was "obvious" but you NEVER mention WHY it was obvious

Dismiss anything that sounds unusual outright? No. Apply extra scrutiny to things that sound unusual? Absolutely. If they had even googled /r/txbountyhunters, they would have found a rDrama thread early in the results talking about it. If they had looked through the accounts at all, they would have found indications that they weren't conservative pro-life Christians from Texas. Same with the trans one. A number of th…

The funniest part about this is that reddit censors all posts/comments linking to rdrama.net, aiding the trolls. Even if someone wanted to expose the trolling, they couldn't.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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The nature of democracy. There's a strong selection bias for positions which attract more votes. Ergo, all parties continually optimize their positions, and apparently meet at a boundary that's usually about half the elective.

> The nature of democracy. Not really. There are basically no countries in Europe with a 50/50 split. > There's a strong selection bias for positions which attract more votes Again, no, not really in Europe with proportional representation or similar systems.

* Winner take all democracy

If 50+1 wasn't the magic number, it makes sense you'd see parties optimizing for other things.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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Same sort of bs is happening with the horse paste stuff now. The story about hospitals being overrun due to people oding were wildly inaccurate at best. Whatever fits the narrative I guess…

Horse paste? It's not you specifically, but you're not the first person I've seen recently who has referred to it and didn't appear to understand what the substance is. Someone I know called it a "horse tranquilizer" in a conversation the other day. It's Ivermectin. It's a dewormer. It shows some promise, but more research is needed into its efficacy. Anyone who has a baseline knowledge of medicine would call it a de…

There is no evidence that it brings any preventative or curative effects as regards covid. It has side effects, especially when taken at high dosage, which the people shilling it recommend and those taking it do. They buy the horse version as it's cheap and available without prescription. So it is indeed horse paste they are taking, even if the same substance is also used in properly dosed human products, used in specific situations where it is effective. "Anyone with a baseline knowledge of" pharmacology would also agree that the standards applied to vet and human pharmaceuticals are not the same, as well as that the active ingredient is not the only thing that matters, as e.g. how the product is packed or what other ingredients are included to ensure efficidnt uptake varies between products.

So, at best, people take a sane dose and it has no effect whatsoever as covid is not an intestinal worm. At worst, they take too much and it makes them more ill. There are indeed people hospitalised for it, whether that's a global, national, local or non-issue I can't say but that any unnecessarily sick person in the context of a pandemic takes another bed away is pretty obvious.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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>Reading responses like this, more than anything, I am reminded of C.S. Lewis: > Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, ‘Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to…

Human nature never changes. In that passage CS Lewis is literally a prophet foreseeing the major role partisan media will play in unleashing hell during the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. Also Rwanda and Radio des Mille Collines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_during_the_Yugoslav...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Lib...

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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post #58

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Same sort of bs is happening with the horse paste stuff now. The story about hospitals being overrun due to people oding were wildly inaccurate at best. Whatever fits the narrative I guess…

Horse paste? It's not you specifically, but you're not the first person I've seen recently who has referred to it and didn't appear to understand what the substance is. Someone I know called it a "horse tranquilizer" in a conversation the other day. It's Ivermectin. It's a dewormer. It shows some promise, but more research is needed into its efficacy. Anyone who has a baseline knowledge of medicine would call it a de…

Humans take ivermectin everyday to treat rosacea. Referring to it only as a dewormer is overly specific and is purposefully chosen to imply a human taking it would be out of the ordinary. It is carefully phrased propaganda.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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> Horse paste is an intentionally derogatory term for it. It's not meant to be scientifically accurate. "Horse dewormer" is as accurate as it can possibly be. It is also used extensively as a cow dewormer and pet dewormer. People are going to veterinarian and pet shops to buy paste sold to deworm horses and cows to take it themselves. They are not taking drugs produced for human consumption. They are going with the a…

It's a dewormer for horses that literally comes in paste form: https://archive.is/k2JUb

It is also used to treat rosacea and other ailments in _humans_.

Calling it a dewormer in this context is a lie of omission.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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>Reading responses like this, more than anything, I am reminded of C.S. Lewis: > Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, ‘Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to…

Screwtape Letters?

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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Groups like this are very important to have around for the rest of us to periodically recalibrate our bull@#$% detectors against. That people whose professional reputation and livelihood it is to keep well-calibrated fell for this, is leagues more dangerous than these jokesters themselves. Sad!

The jokesters cause damage by radicalism people on both sides simultaneously.

And what is required to prevent it is every single journal to not fall for it. And all it takes in one journal to fall for it.

Re: Trolls convinced journalists they were “abortion bounty hunters”

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That's the frustrating thing isn't it, "fake news" became popularized in the last few years and 'professional journalists' who can't even be bothered to fact check anything are really proving it right. Which is a shame since a free unbiased press is healthy for a society.

I'm with you until your last line. An "unbiased" press I think was a pretty unusual and brief development in the mid 20th century. I have no problem with a partisan press that wears its heart on its sleeve and states its objectives in the masthead: I'm perfectly capable of reading critically, and noting what's omitted as much as what's covered, and I'll know which alternative periodical to seek out for the other side…

The mid century press was not unbiased. If you read it with benefit of hindsight, the ideology and limited range of opinions and topics is apparent.
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