The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)

Post by lenkite » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 7:13 AM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #135

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #68

It is exactly the failure of Microsoft and Apple to propose any meaningful cross-platform API. Both are fighting to increase vendor lock-in - it is in their best interests that apps written on Windows don't work on macOS/iOS and the other way round. Linux/OS folks themselves are unable to solve this problem on their own and it becomes a mouse-and-cat game. The popularity of web apps helped to reduce the problem, but…

Microsoft made .NET platform cross platform years ago but a UI has been missing. They have a cross platform UI project now too https://github.com/dotnet/maui

Post by lenkite » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 7:20 AM UTC

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #137

jeswin wrote: post #33

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That train left long back; nobody wants a Windows-only app when half the management are using Macs. Unless of course you're taking about pro apps like AutoCad or Photoshop; but they have never been electron and unlikely to ever be.

The app that kills Photoshop will run on Electron. Figma has 100% convinced me of this, if you can make an app where the UI remains responsive and fluid like Figma and graphics heavy lifting is done in a way that doesn’t choke the UI I think you’ll pretty much eat their lunch like Figma did to Sketch, Illustrator and XD. You have to remember that Photoshop is pretty poorly optimized for modern hardware, a ton of it i…

Post by kasabali » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 9:54 AM UTC

EvilEy3 wrote: post #63

lewisjoe wrote: post #44

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> I am wondering why mobile apps too haven't entirely been replaced by Web apps Simple equation. Efficiency of a mobile device is directly proportional to the efficiency of the runtime the apps are running on. For example Objective-C / swift has a GC-less memory model which just means we get to do more with less memory. This is how iPhone typically ship with lesser RAM than Android phones, yet do everything that Andr…

> For example Objective-C / swift has a GC-less memory model which just means we get to do more with less memory. This is how iPhone typically ship with lesser RAM than Android phones, yet do everything that Android phones are capable of surprisingly well. You forgot CPU that's light-years ahead of anything that Qualcomm or Samsung have. But, please, keep thinking that it is about Swift/Objective-C, lol.

Post by EvilEy3 » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 2:25 PM UTC

kasabali wrote: post #245

EvilEy3 wrote: post #63

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> For example Objective-C / swift has a GC-less memory model which just means we get to do more with less memory. This is how iPhone typically ship with lesser RAM than Android phones, yet do everything that Android phones are capable of surprisingly well. You forgot CPU that's light-years ahead of anything that Qualcomm or Samsung have. But, please, keep thinking that it is about Swift/Objective-C, lol.

> You forgot CPU that's light-years ahead of anything that Qualcomm or Samsung have That's a relatively recent development. iOS's lower memory usage compared to Android, however, has been forever .

Post by kasabali » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 8:46 PM UTC

EvilEy3 wrote: post #247

kasabali wrote: post #245

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> You forgot CPU that's light-years ahead of anything that Qualcomm or Samsung have That's a relatively recent development. iOS's lower memory usage compared to Android, however, has been forever .

> That's a relatively recent development. No, it's not. Apple been dominating mobile since a5.