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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by linux2647 »

phkahler wrote: post #2

>> Weston is the Wayland project reference compositor and the heart of WSLg. For WSLg, we've extended the existing RDP backend of libweston to teach it how to remote applications rather than monitor/desktop. We've also added various functionality to it, such as support for multi-monitor, cut/paste, audio in/out, etc... Did they push those changes upstream? This seems like it could be another way to run GUI apps in co…

The README mentioned that they have their changes in a separate public GitHub repo and that they plan to upstream it

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by MikusR »

scandinavian wrote: post #144
r-w wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I mean come on, they're Microsoft. If they really wanted filesystem access to be efficient across systems, we'd have it by now. Although convenient, I doubt that's on their list of primary motivations for doing this.

>But I mean come on, they're Microsoft. If they really wanted filesystem access to be efficient across systems, we'd have it by now. Here's one of the developers saying it is hard back in the WSL days. https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-391... The reason makes sense to me, but I'm not an expert. Maybe you could expand on why you think they could do it but chose not to?

Seeing how every file system (NTFS) imrovement since windows 7 (like new compression methods) is done in layers running on top of ntfs. I think that Microsoft has either lost the source to ntfs driver or institutional knowledge of how it works.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

asciimov wrote: post #182
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest I’m not going to miss the annual update that messes with all my settings and tries to force a MS account on me.

You know, you will still get those.

I assume not, that we will just get security updates until it goes end of life. No more "features".

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

Stratoscope wrote: post #244
reilly3000 wrote: post #31

I wonder what Linux exclusive software they are hoping to support. Everything I use in my Ubuntu daily driver has a Windows build or corollary app. I get how ‘you never have to leave Windows’ is a nice thing for their business, but I don’t see this being a reason I would stop dual-booting. The only reason I run windows in the first place is for a few apps, mostly games. Otherwise I really enjoy the bloat-free, ad-fre…

Even though our dev environment at work is Ubuntu, I greatly prefer running Windows on my ThinkPad X1 Extreme, because of the superior hardware support for the devices I use. Specifically: • I spend a fair amount of time on Zoom calls (who doesn't?), and I like to use my Apple AirPods so I can move around while we talk. I was never was able to get these or any other Bluetooth headset to work on Ubuntu. They pair only…

> like to use my Apple AirPods so I can move around while we talk. I was never was able to get these or any other Bluetooth headset to work on Ubuntu.

Is this due to Apple having drivers for AirPods for Windows or Is Windows Bluetooth stack that good?

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by Daegalus »

dboreham wrote: post #221

I use it for two things: 1. Running Linux build tools that expect to pop up a browser for SSO auth (e.g. with ECS). These tools do the right thing if you install chrome in WSL. Otherwise you need to copy the URL into a windows browser which is slightly inconvenient and for me sometimes inscrutably doesn't work. 2. Running UI dev tools that don't work properly cross-OS from Windows. E.g jconsole Java networking seems…

there are tools that solve this. I think it's even called WSL Tools. adds a few things to launch browsers on windows side with urls on Linux side and other things.

not sure about java, haven't touched that in over a decade

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by Stratoscope »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #274
Stratoscope wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though our dev environment at work is Ubuntu, I greatly prefer running Windows on my ThinkPad X1 Extreme, because of the superior hardware support for the devices I use. Specifically: • I spend a fair amount of time on Zoom calls (who doesn't?), and I like to use my Apple AirPods so I can move around while we talk. I was never was able to get these or any other Bluetooth headset to work on Ubuntu. They pair only…

> like to use my Apple AirPods so I can move around while we talk. I was never was able to get these or any other Bluetooth headset to work on Ubuntu. Is this due to Apple having drivers for AirPods for Windows or Is Windows Bluetooth stack that good?

I didn't install any Apple drivers, just paired and connected them in the Windows settings. I also tried a couple of cheaper Bluetooth headsets and they worked equally well. None of them would connect as headsets in Ubuntu 20.04.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by ineedasername »

scandinavian wrote: post #117
pygar wrote: post #100

This is undoubtedly cool but I'm curious to know of a use case that would warrant installing this. Could this just have been a step in creating "Windows Subsystem for Android" [0] that they decided to release as its own layer? The screenshot on the github page shows VSCode, Edge, Blender, Xcalc, Xclock and GNOME file manager which are all either available natively on windows or redundant. [0] https://www.xda-develope…

Accessing the Windows filesystem from WSL and vice versa is extremely slow, so running for example your IDE in WSL and having your code etc. stored in WSL is useful. I think that is one of the big usecases. It's already kinda supported in vscode, where it runs a vscode server in WSL and Windows just runs the frontend. It's useful for me when developing dotnet intended for Linux as I can store the code in WSL and be a…

Why is it so slow? I use VMware player and swapping files is fine. WSL2 seems like it's just using a lightweight VM over HyperV... is Hyper V really that much worse than VMware (and VBox) in this?

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by ineedasername »

vzaliva wrote: post #201

One could run Linux and use Wine to run some Windows apps. On the other hand one can run Windows and use WSL to run some Linux apps. Depending on the individual's needs which apps are important to have access to the decision could go either way. This is why Microsoft is investing in projects like this - to tip the scales and lure more users to run Windows as primary OS. P.S. And then there is Google which wants you n…

or just download Virtual Box or the free VMware Player. If you're on Linux, running Windows in "Unity" mode is already about as seamless as WSL2 w/ GUI appears to be.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by sz4kerto »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #253
Stratoscope wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though our dev environment at work is Ubuntu, I greatly prefer running Windows on my ThinkPad X1 Extreme, because of the superior hardware support for the devices I use. Specifically: • I spend a fair amount of time on Zoom calls (who doesn't?), and I like to use my Apple AirPods so I can move around while we talk. I was never was able to get these or any other Bluetooth headset to work on Ubuntu. They pair only…

> • I run the external displays at 200% scaling and the internal at 300% to match the differing pixel density. I didn't see any way to support this configuration in Ubuntu, much less be able to move an app window between displays and have it automatically update its scaling factor to match the display. This works "out of the box" in Windows. This works if you use Wayland rather than X11. I'm using a similar configura…

However, the X1 Extreme has an Nvidia GPU.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by chx »

Stratoscope wrote: post #244
reilly3000 wrote: post #31

I wonder what Linux exclusive software they are hoping to support. Everything I use in my Ubuntu daily driver has a Windows build or corollary app. I get how ‘you never have to leave Windows’ is a nice thing for their business, but I don’t see this being a reason I would stop dual-booting. The only reason I run windows in the first place is for a few apps, mostly games. Otherwise I really enjoy the bloat-free, ad-fre…

Even though our dev environment at work is Ubuntu, I greatly prefer running Windows on my ThinkPad X1 Extreme, because of the superior hardware support for the devices I use. Specifically: • I spend a fair amount of time on Zoom calls (who doesn't?), and I like to use my Apple AirPods so I can move around while we talk. I was never was able to get these or any other Bluetooth headset to work on Ubuntu. They pair only…

WSL v2 is a VM too and better integrated. I like it very much.
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