I used WSLg for several months and just recently switched back to x410. WSLg is badly broken with non-trivial apps like IntelliJ IDEA.
Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
IIRC, they were primarily interested in getting GPU acceleration (for ML tasks) to work in WSL2. I presume getting GUI working on top of those GPU APIs was a trivial task (and maybe done by one of their interns or during a hackathon).
Anyone could already do it with a few lines of code. Edit: Seems people don't believe me, here's an article how to do it: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-dev-appconsul...
That shows how to set up an X server in windows that WSL can access. How do you get GPU acceleration for ML tasks using X11?
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be nice if they did something actually useful, like add native ext4 support. Other way around. The Kernel getting real support for NTFS (was merged into Linus' tree a month ago [0]) there's hope to get native performance on WSL2. Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. [0] https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/linux-kernel-5-15-will-have-...
Linux and Windows use mutually exclusive permission/ACL bits, even on the same NTFS filesystem.
If Linux would just adopt NFSv4 ACLs, there'd be nothing mutually exclusive about it, but instead perfectly in tandem.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#234I haven't had any problems running all types of GUIs in WSL (1 & 2) through Xming for years now.
I recall running the X11 server that came packaged with Cygwin back in the 90s. Where there is a will, there is a way, for several decades now.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#235I wonder what Linux exclusive software they are hoping to support. Everything I use in my Ubuntu daily driver has a Windows build or corollary app. I get how ‘you never have to leave Windows’ is a nice thing for their business, but I don’t see this being a reason I would stop dual-booting. The only reason I run windows in the first place is for a few apps, mostly games. Otherwise I really enjoy the bloat-free, ad-fre…
To be honest, theres alot of research related software (including for visualization) that works on Linux only or has very poor support for windows. As a roboticist one example that comes to mind is the whole open source robotics ecosystem with ROS/Gazebo which is pretty linux only. Personally I've been using linux as a daily driver for 10+years now so its not a problem for me per-se, however I'm sure there are many who would be interested in seeing better windows support. I've heard of similar issues in the domain of particle physics and a few other niche research areas.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be nice if they did something actually useful, like add native ext4 support. Other way around. The Kernel getting real support for NTFS (was merged into Linus' tree a month ago [0]) there's hope to get native performance on WSL2. Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. [0] https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/linux-kernel-5-15-will-have-...
> Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. Big claim, most devs I've met either use Mac or Ubuntu. Can't remember anyone using Windows...
Have a look at JetBrains' developer surveys. Windows is consistently the most used OS.
https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/#Main_on-whic...
Windows: 61% Linux: 47% macOS: 44%
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be nice if they did something actually useful, like add native ext4 support. Other way around. The Kernel getting real support for NTFS (was merged into Linus' tree a month ago [0]) there's hope to get native performance on WSL2. Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. [0] https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/linux-kernel-5-15-will-have-...
> Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. Big claim, most devs I've met either use Mac or Ubuntu. Can't remember anyone using Windows...
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be nice if they did something actually useful, like add native ext4 support. Other way around. The Kernel getting real support for NTFS (was merged into Linus' tree a month ago [0]) there's hope to get native performance on WSL2. Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. [0] https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/linux-kernel-5-15-will-have-...
> Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. Big claim, most devs I've met either use Mac or Ubuntu. Can't remember anyone using Windows...
I develop Linux software on Windows using Visual Studio / C++. It lets me build and debug my servers on Linux machines remotely using nice IDE and tools. Also use CLion from Jet Brains the same way
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#239Can you run whole desktop environments like XFCE, Gnome; or run a Window Manager like i3?
I'm a long time VMware user and never really used Unity (name?) view which allows running Linux apps seamlessly on Windows or Mac. WSLg seems to be the same feature.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI
#240One could run Linux and use Wine to run some Windows apps. On the other hand one can run Windows and use WSL to run some Linux apps. Depending on the individual's needs which apps are important to have access to the decision could go either way. This is why Microsoft is investing in projects like this - to tip the scales and lure more users to run Windows as primary OS. P.S. And then there is Google which wants you n…
It's almost like they're trying to embrace the Linux ecosystem and extend it for windows users...