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Google Responds To Microsoft’s "Gotcha": They’re Diverting Attention

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Re: Google Responds To Microsoft’s "Gotcha": They’re Diverting Attention

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What are you doing on Hacker news? This is all about disrupting industries trough a better product. Android is free so this is obviously an improvement to something you have to pay for, or do you call Linux unfair? When Microsoft can't build a product that justifies a higher price that is their problem, Apple figured that out so it isn't impossible. Unfair (or use another word) is in my eyes trying to beat Google in…

First, minor nitpick - Apple is going after Android with various lawsuits as well. But let's keep that aside. Contrast these arguments - back in the 90s, MSFT was accused of killing off Netscape by essentially giving away a browser for free using the revenue from Windows and Office. One could argue that Google is doing the same thing, funding Android with its revenues from ads. Let's forget Android for a second -look…

You are right, the word unfair was not the right choice. What i really meant was the patent system, these software patents are just wrong.

It is not fair at all, but as long it just hurts companies who are not able to compete it's the way of the market.

What you are referring to is a difficult matter, it is basically the discussion if open source/free software is a bad thing because it kills companies who have to charge for their product.

There is a lot of material about this stuff, but i personally think open source is a good thing for society in the long run.

Re: Google Responds To Microsoft’s "Gotcha": They’re Diverting Attention

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Offtopic: What movie is that screenshot from? ( http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/f1.jpeg?... )

Face/Off http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094/

Aw. Was hoping to discover a decent older movie.

EDIT: That's more like it... the next TechCrunch article uses a screenshot from Reservoir Dogs, which was a pretty awesome movie IMO. ( http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/reservoi... )

Re: Google Responds To Microsoft’s "Gotcha": They’re Diverting Attention

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Can someone translate this? What exactly is google arguing in their response to MS?

It sounded to me that google's response was that they didn't partner because then they could not keep those patents just to themselves. Somehow I feel I'm misunderstanding it? That sounds too dumb of a response to be accurate.

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Unfair is all relative - people think it is unfair Google is giving away Android for free by funding it with its search revenue. I don't agree with what MSFT is doing with Android patents but they have a stock answer which I'm sure they'll repeat.

What are you doing on Hacker news? This is all about disrupting industries trough a better product. Android is free so this is obviously an improvement to something you have to pay for, or do you call Linux unfair? When Microsoft can't build a product that justifies a higher price that is their problem, Apple figured that out so it isn't impossible. Unfair (or use another word) is in my eyes trying to beat Google in…

What are you doing on Hacker news?

I am going to assume that you didn't mean this to come across as elitist and mean-spirited as I originally read it. Hacker News is also about civility and quality discourse, right?

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Unfair is all relative - people think it is unfair Google is giving away Android for free by funding it with its search revenue. I don't agree with what MSFT is doing with Android patents but they have a stock answer which I'm sure they'll repeat.

What are you doing on Hacker news? This is all about disrupting industries trough a better product. Android is free so this is obviously an improvement to something you have to pay for, or do you call Linux unfair? When Microsoft can't build a product that justifies a higher price that is their problem, Apple figured that out so it isn't impossible. Unfair (or use another word) is in my eyes trying to beat Google in…

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Here's the response to this response :) http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/04/gentlemen-take-this-outside... On an unrelated note, this is a very different kind of MSFT PR, and almost completely brought about by Frank Shaw. In the old days, MSFT would have put out a boring press release filled with corporate speak. Frank has brought a real-time, plain-speak, slightly aggressive approach to dealing with crises like this on…

But he doesn't make a good impression, soon he has to explain why Microsoft is attacking android with patents. There was no "gotcha" and these people on Techcrunch see this whole thing as a reality show. It is sad because this is serious stuff, Microsoft is fighting Google with unfair methods.

"Fair" is very relative.

I'd go with the term "unethical". MS has been positioning itself to start throwing patents against its competitors for a long time, now. If they are able to do this, it will be against the interests of those who believe in ... freedom, not to put it too dramatically.

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I'm getting really sick of MG's sensationalist writing. He's the reason I've unsubscribed from TC.

For the same reason, I created a RSS feed of TC which excludes anything written by MG: http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=3b4a015445a904d76f...

Feel free to use it!

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