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Sure, but we're talking about physical health here. The religious/spiritual/mental thing is separate. You can also meditate while you lift, no? :)
There are many kinds of meditation. You can try being mindful while lifting iron, so at least you can practice mindfulness mediation.
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How do you know what to without an instructor though? I was not born with an innate knowledge of how to do yoga :)
Instructional videos, or even a book, which is very likely to have illustrations.
I recommend finding a class that speaks to you. A good teacher will make you get the right focus and postures.
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Unfortunately type 1 is a classic case of cultural appropriation. Yoga is fundamentally a spiritual exercise that aims to strengthen not just the body. Therefore, practices like Surya Namaskara are not just a series of exercises for strength and flexibility but also a must for spiritual improvement.
I agree with you, but from what I’ve read in Mark Singleton’s research Surya Namaskar actually only appeared in the early 20th century and when it was advertised at Mysore palace where Krishnamacharya was teaching, it was as a separate class from “yoga”. That’s not to say you can’t practice it as a moving meditation, but it definitely is part of the modern movement of asana practice.
Some of the old texts may seriously alter perspectives, though it also need to be lived.
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Unfortunately type 1 is a classic case of cultural appropriation. Yoga is fundamentally a spiritual exercise that aims to strengthen not just the body. Therefore, practices like Surya Namaskara are not just a series of exercises for strength and flexibility but also a must for spiritual improvement.
Sincere question: what do you mean by "spiritual improvement"?
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Funny because I did yoga for years and I've never felt better since doing olympic weight lifting and other forms of strength training.
And I've done daily running 25 years, pilates 20 years, yoga 10 years and 5 years ago I started krav maga and it has changed my life. I think it is just a lifetime of it or something.
How do you know this? Perhaps your life would be the same w/o it (except you'd do other things with the time). After all, we only get one life to live.
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in terms of "increasing brain function", I 100% agree with that amphetamine.. lol
Looks like I picked a bad week to quite amphetamines
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> Is there something else that makes it unethical? Yes. The main problems are around taking elements of a culture without providing proper attribution or butchering them. Translated to FOSS, it's the equivalent of reusing somebody's software without attributing authorship (even if the license requires it). Or a large company making a backdoored fork of Firefox called "FireFox" and misleading users into blaming Mozill…
> culture without providing proper attribution What would be the appropriate means of providing attribution in case of Yoga? Would a rendition of Sare Jahan Se Achcha before each Yoga session suffice? > Translated to FOSS Applying copyright and trademark law to a practice that is a part of humanity's intangible cultural heritage is beyond farcical. > Besides, I met plenty of people, both from India and not, complaini…
I never said to apply copyright and trademark to cultural heritage. I was making a comparison.
Besides, you just made a good example of appropriation: registering the name of a cultural item from another culture as your own trademark in another countries. It happened a lot of time with food.
> But the world would be a poorer place if we gave up this wonderful cuisine because of some misguided notions of appropriation.
I never said one should give up any cultural artifact. You are making a strawman after another.
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> culture without providing proper attribution What would be the appropriate means of providing attribution in case of Yoga? Would a rendition of Sare Jahan Se Achcha before each Yoga session suffice? > Translated to FOSS Applying copyright and trademark law to a practice that is a part of humanity's intangible cultural heritage is beyond farcical. > Besides, I met plenty of people, both from India and not, complaini…
> Applying copyright and trademark law to a practice that is a part of humanity's intangible cultural heritage is beyond farcical. I never said to apply copyright and trademark to cultural heritage. I was making a comparison . Besides, you just made a good example of appropriation: registering the name of a cultural item from another culture as your own trademark in another countries. It happened a lot of time with f…
You wake making some reference to attribution. You didn't clarify what would be appropriate attribution in this case though.
> registering the name of a cultural item from another culture as your own trademark in another countries.
Which is an entirely different issue. Let me remind you the discussion was originally about people from other countries practicing Yoga.
> I never said one should give up any cultural artifact.
But you did say that cultural appropriation was not ethical. So, we can continue with it as long as we feel bad about it?
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They have really different outcomes though. There's absolutely no way you can stress the nervous system and build muscle and bone density as efficiently as with lifting weights. Calisthenics, which is what Yoga is, body weight exercises, can never achieve the same results. You can come close in a lot of ways, one legged squats etc, but ultimately, you cannot work your back and your core as effectively as with a 1.5x…
> There's absolutely no way you can stress the nervous system and build muscle and bone density as efficiently as with lifting weights. I'm not sure about that - have you looked at the strength required for some of the exercises people do on gymnastics rings? Things like ring planches, maltese, victorian cross (once thought to be impossible) etc.
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> Applying copyright and trademark law to a practice that is a part of humanity's intangible cultural heritage is beyond farcical. I never said to apply copyright and trademark to cultural heritage. I was making a comparison . Besides, you just made a good example of appropriation: registering the name of a cultural item from another culture as your own trademark in another countries. It happened a lot of time with f…
> I was making a comparison. You wake making some reference to attribution. You didn't clarify what would be appropriate attribution in this case though. > registering the name of a cultural item from another culture as your own trademark in another countries. Which is an entirely different issue. Let me remind you the discussion was originally about people from other countries practicing Yoga. > I never said one sho…
Registering a trademark is a by-the-book example of claiming ownership of something. Especially when it goes together with introducing something to a population largely unaware of it.
> But you did say that cultural appropriation was not ethical.
Yes.
> So, we can continue with it as long as we feel bad about it?
No, and again, I never said that. I very clearly said that once attribution is given properly and mashups/variations are clearly identified there is no problem.
At this point I can't imagine that the attempts at arguing I'm reading are written in good faith and without an agenda.