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Someone taken in by the ruse, on being told it was a ruse... > “It may be a lie, but the fact I believed it speaks volumes about my enemies, and not me” ... that's pretty much the zeitgeist of our times. (By which I mean, people who are on Twitter and Facebook) facepalm
I believe that tweet was intended as comedy.
The author of this article says it was unsubtle, obvious satire but I would say that the post they referenced was solidly in Poe’s law territory. Is it really so hard to imagine someone genuinely writing that? Perhaps they’ve never met a misogynist. Wishing for it to be true after it had been shown to be false is one thing (and clearly dumb), but I think the existence of such a subreddit is a perfectly reasonable thi…
So as long as you can imagine someone holding the view you are reading, it is no longer important to critically evaluate its veracity? In isolation, this view might be rational. However, in aggregate, this mindset can cause a cycle of increasing extremism. A good portion of those misogynists you speak of came to their views because they have read countless fake left-wing content that they thought was real, and in res…
No, I don’t believe that.
Someone taken in by the ruse, on being told it was a ruse... > “It may be a lie, but the fact I believed it speaks volumes about my enemies, and not me” ... that's pretty much the zeitgeist of our times. (By which I mean, people who are on Twitter and Facebook) facepalm
I believe that tweet was intended as comedy.
Is it me or does this sounds like early 4chan?
Trace Underwood looks like a douchebag here with his tone-deaf narrative. Women have their rights trampled upon in Texas, but let's focus on the "internet troublemakers" who draw attention to this situation using satire?
> Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, ‘Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything — God and our friends and ourselves included — as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred.
> Increasingly, that’s where the culture war is headed, I think. Wishing that black was blacker, conviction that false stories reveal deep truths about opponents while truths inconvenient to their allies should be minimized, salivating over any opportunity to rage at the outrage du jour.
Trace Underwood looks like a douchebag here with his tone-deaf narrative. Women have their rights trampled upon in Texas, but let's focus on the "internet troublemakers" who draw attention to this situation using satire?
Oh hey, cool to see my article here. If anyone has questions or wants further details on anything, I'm happy to stick around this thread for a bit. I've paid altogether too much attention to this saga; glad it's going to some use.
Definitely an interesting article. Have a clap or two. (I have no idea what that's worth on Medium anymore.) I haven't encountered this specific group before, but I've definitely run into the "we want to believe the worst of our enemies" mindset, when I got into an argument with an earnest, well-meaning Bernie Sanders supporter who came across an obviously tongue-in-cheek Joe Biden pinup coloring book during the 2020…
One thing I'm not sure comes through is that the trolls are actually doing us a service by exposing the absurdity of that particular law, or whatever else the focus their attention on. What they pretended to be is entirely plausible, and because of human nature, will almost assuredly happen for real under that particular law. It's just too easy - you're in a bad relationship, trying to find a way out, she gets pregnant, gets an abortion, and you use the opportunity to break up and make some dough. Will that happen a lot? Probably not. Will it happen? I'd be willing to bet on it. It's that gray in the C.S. Lewis quote - there is always some black in it, more or less.
I think of the trolls more as bellweathers than anything else. They're just helping us see the logical extremes of what is going on.
Oh hey, cool to see my article here. If anyone has questions or wants further details on anything, I'm happy to stick around this thread for a bit. I've paid altogether too much attention to this saga; glad it's going to some use.
One thing I'm not sure comes through is that the trolls are actually doing us a service by exposing the absurdity of that particular law, or whatever else the focus their attention on. What they pretended to be is entirely plausible, and because of human nature, will almost assuredly happen for real under that particular law. It's just too easy - you're in a bad relationship, trying to find a way out, she gets pregnant, gets an abortion, and you use the opportunity to break up and make some dough. Will that happen a lot? Probably not. Will it happen? I'd be willing to bet on it. It's that gray in the C.S. Lewis quote - there is always some black in it, more or less.
I think of the trolls more as bellweathers than anything else. They're just helping us see the logical extremes of what is going on.
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I believe that tweet was intended as comedy.
It might not be true, but it is so revealing of the mindset of people who think that way.
Is this sarcasm/irony? Or are you doing precisely what this post talks about? Or perhaps I am parsing your words incorrectly?
The CS Lewis quote from the article:
> Wishing that black was blacker, conviction that false stories reveal deep truths about opponents