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A Battery Spot Welder Made from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany [video]

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Re: A Battery Spot Welder Made from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany [video]

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Isn't it incredibly dangerous to disassemble microwaves?

The magnetron can have insulators made of a toxic substance that can be dangerous as a dust. This guy is just using the transformer for it's convenient laminates and primary winding - probably could have used a similar transformer with suitable current handling capacity but dead microwave ovens are fairly common. I have 3

Some beryllium ceramics I heard...

Re: A Battery Spot Welder Made from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany [video]

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These MOT based spot welders transfer far more heat to cells than capacitive discharge welders. This can result in the damage to heat sensitive components inside the cells which is the same reason that soldering isn't recommended for lithium cells. To get around those issues, I built a capacitive discharge spot welder for tabbing lithium ion cells a couple years ago: http://robruark.com/projects/welder/welder.html

What is the cause of the excess heat transfer? Is it mainly an excess pulse duration? I notice that the project in the OP was being pulsed on the order of 100s of ms, long enough to get a visible glow. Or is the excess heat caused by the fact that the OP runs at constant current for the entire duration of the pulse, where a capacitive discharge design is going to have the current falling off during the pulse? Or is it a blend of both?

Re: A Battery Spot Welder Made from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany [video]

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In the end of the video he lists off the number of things he did that were fancier than necessary. One of them was the use of an Arduino for the pulse duration and switching. I found myself reflexively commenting, "It's called a 555 timer." I'm confident that the same function could be more minimally implemented with a 555 timer and maybe a couple other supporting chips. But he's probably getting more consistent control of pulse duration and it was probably easier for him to implement as well.

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In the end of the video he lists off the number of things he did that were fancier than necessary. One of them was the use of an Arduino for the pulse duration and switching. I found myself reflexively commenting, "It's called a 555 timer." I'm confident that the same function could be more minimally implemented with a 555 timer and maybe a couple other supporting chips. But he's probably getting more consistent cont…

Having digital timer settings would be tricky without a processor, I imagine.

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In the end of the video he lists off the number of things he did that were fancier than necessary. One of them was the use of an Arduino for the pulse duration and switching. I found myself reflexively commenting, "It's called a 555 timer." I'm confident that the same function could be more minimally implemented with a 555 timer and maybe a couple other supporting chips. But he's probably getting more consistent cont…

Having digital timer settings would be tricky without a processor, I imagine.

It’s also likely faster to implement as a one-off for a hobbyist and, using a low-cost MCU, cheaper than building it around a $0.10 555 if you want to make a product.

https://cpldcpu.wordpress.com/2019/08/12/the-terrible-3-cent...

Re: A Battery Spot Welder Made from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany [video]

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What are the dangers here? What happens if that thin insulation between the copper bars breaks? Can the current jump to you if you use this bare handed?

Well it's only 2 volts. So nothing will happen. Unless your hand is all sweaty maybe. Then maybe you'll feel it. I wouldn't worry.

Agree. You can feel a 9V battery on your tongue, but not on the sweatiest of hands IME. (I still quick-check 9V batteries on my tongue.)

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post #15

What are the dangers here? What happens if that thin insulation between the copper bars breaks? Can the current jump to you if you use this bare handed?

Well it's only 2 volts. So nothing will happen. Unless your hand is all sweaty maybe. Then maybe you'll feel it. I wouldn't worry.

uh... wut

I believe it's the amps you need to worry about; "amps kill."

I believe it takes about 1 amp to kill a person.

This thing is outputting somewhere around 55 amps (if I remember right).

Re: A Battery Spot Welder Made from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's only 2 volts. So nothing will happen. Unless your hand is all sweaty maybe. Then maybe you'll feel it. I wouldn't worry.

uh... wut I believe it's the amps you need to worry about; "amps kill." I believe it takes about 1 amp to kill a person. This thing is outputting somewhere around 55 amps (if I remember right).

But for a given resistance, you don’t get the amps if you don’t have enough voltage. V=I*R. Don’t they teach that equation any more?
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