Which leads us back to trip planning. How often do people really plan trips? For the typical working adult, probably once or twice a year if you're lucky. In fact, Americans are notorious for shirking vacation, clocking the lowest rates of vacation on the planet. Twice a year just doesn't cut it. This is something I've thought about before. European friends I've met put a lot more thought into destination "discovery"…
Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
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#63I thought it was task tracking software.
I haven't heard of anyone building this, is this what enterprise types are doing? Like a Jira or Monday.com?
Part of the ubiquitous demand for these services is because they're very useful, and partially it's because of how many people are sold on "productivity porn" and the idea that you can organize yourself out of being overwhelmed and ridden with FOMO anxiety (not on my high horse here: I've definitely been there).
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every time we travel with my friends we use the best travel planning software ever: a spreadsheet. It's the only tool that can bring together all the features you need, while giving you the flexibility of having your own organization: - maybe you want to list everything in one sheet, maybe you want to split the "established" and the "ideas" in different sheets - thanks to the beauty that is the Web, if something look…
>you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. There's no way I'm turning kids loose on a spreadsheet to tally their votes for a Disney vacation.
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#65Tell that to Pieter Levels, who's made a fortune off travel planning software as a one-man shop.
A "fortune".
He has a lot of little projects, what % of his revenue is his travel site/app? And how much?
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#66I've worked in the travel industry and we'd work on tools for travel planning, and we'd get excited that you could put your itinerary together with just a few clicks. You know what's cooler than putting your itinerary in one place with a few clicks? Doing it with zero. Emails flow into Google, they get pushed to your calendar. Zero clicks and it's all in one place. Amazing stuff.
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#67Been there, done that unfortunately - long time ago. Pivoted to selling experiences Sold by adventure SME. Was impossible to scale as each needed support to get their adventure itineraries online. Painful. Travel planning seems to be common wrong idea and the other is dating websites.
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#69Also...one of my favorite parts of travel is the spontaneity it affords me. I loath the idea of turning my free time into just another work day but with one-offs like "going to the museum" instead of "meeting with sales" embedded into some app....bleh!
Also...maybe no one has been creative enough to crack the problem yet, and someday someone will finally come up with a piece of software that is useful in this domain.
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#70Fair enough.
But, then i also see how someone starting as B2C will easily be able to pivot towards B2B, and sell to thousands of travel agencies selling tours to people. These companies are planning travel (for customers) everyday, multiple times. A SW like this will really help them with with saving time, resources and communicate better with customers.
So not such a bad idea after all.