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Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by silicon2401 »

sterlind wrote: post #289
silicon2401 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's quite an ominous way to have the prayer recited, like the audio for Gandalf reciting the ring inscription in black speech. I would probably feel unsettled rather than calmed hearing that before a flight.

I assume maybe if it's your language/culture/religion you'd find it soothing rather than ominous?

It's not about the language/religion, it's about the audio editing. I could see reverb/delay being a part of Muslim culture, but it can definitely be jarring if it's not part of the listener's culture

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by mensetmanusman »

caymanjim wrote: post #140

I have a semi-related anecdote about surprises from devices. I use a CPAP. After a year, I went back to the doctor for a followup, and was asked to bring the SD card so they could review the data it collects. The device records the times and duration of use, various settings, and some metrics on breathing (apnea events, etc). I knew it recorded this stuff on an SD card. I brought the card to the appointment, but the…

Imagine a future employer bringing up how many times you snored last night.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by b112 »

bavell wrote: post #272
b112 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Most [literally any group of humans] are good folk, but unfortunately there is a small radical subset which are not. FTFY.

Sure. However the thread is about Islamic prayer.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by piva00 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #297
dylan604 wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people would ultimately be charged higher premiums if they did hand this data over. Ins: In the last week, you've purchased 3 packages of Oreos, 2 cans of Crisco, 3lbs of 73% ground beef, no vegetables, lots of stuff with high sugar content, high salt content, and very little actual nutritional value. Therefore, we rank you in a high risk category (since you are clearly over 21 years old) based on the fact you a…

But the people for whom it would lower premiums would hand over the data, which results in the same thing. A health insurance company could offer me a $50 discount for a monthly blood test showing my sugar/cholesterol, and I would do it. Why should I pay for someone else’s cheese/alcohol/butter/sugar/bacon consumption. I assume the reason it is not currently implemented yet is because the cost of monthly blood tests…

> A health insurance company could offer me a $50 discount for a monthly blood test showing my sugar/cholesterol, and I would do it. Why should I pay for someone else’s cheese/alcohol/butter/sugar/bacon consumption.

Because... You would be saving peanuts while someone else would have to pay much more (and sometimes drop their insurance completely) and that's a much worse result for society than you paying some 50 bucks extra, even more if you have a good salary and this practice would make someone poorer be forced to be uninsured.

This ultra-individualistic thinking really doesn't help a society. Might help you as an individual but good luck living without a society.

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Post by seized »

caymanjim wrote: post #140

I have a semi-related anecdote about surprises from devices. I use a CPAP. After a year, I went back to the doctor for a followup, and was asked to bring the SD card so they could review the data it collects. The device records the times and duration of use, various settings, and some metrics on breathing (apnea events, etc). I knew it recorded this stuff on an SD card. I brought the card to the appointment, but the…

If your CPAP is like mine it has a 2G modem. Mine stopped working when those networks were shut down, so it's SD card only now. Forces the solution nicely.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by zzo38computer »

_archon_ wrote: post #262
aix1 wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would such a "smart monitor" connect to the Internet? Wouldn't that require network hardware not commonly found in monitors as well as some cooperation from the owner (to hook up the monitor to their network, with unclear benefits)?

HDMI can pass-through communications. Wireless is also a possibility. "Thank you for plugging me in! Please enter network credentials so I can update myself!"

I just dislike HDMI for a lot of reasons. That is one problem. Another problem is HDCP. Those aren't the only ones. I would prefer to connect audio and video separately. HDMI doesn't have captions. etc.

Due to this, I have my own specifications (not fully written, although I did write a lot of it), which are much simpler than HDMI. (It has digital video (with no inherent picture size limit, although implementations would be limited), analog audio, and an optional IMIDI (which is a two way command stream; it is safe to avoid connecting it). The IMIDI can be used for captions as well as for control, and can also be used with IR, as well as with the special IMIDI port.) (These would be fully free, although there may be trademark licenses (perhaps to avoid many of the problems that HDMI and others have) but no other restrictions.)

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by npteljes »

xyzzy21 wrote: post #287

NEVER buy an internet-connectable appliance!! Certainly never connect any internet-connectable appliance to the actual internet!! Certainly never provide any personal information to any internet-connectable appliance that is on the actual internet!! You are an idiot if you violate any of these. Just grow a spine and don't do stupid things that are obviously dangerous or invasive.

I mean, the tweets are funny, but the guy gave the fridge his email address at a time, no? So what was the expectation?

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by caymanjim »

ScoobleDoodle wrote: post #263
caymanjim wrote: post #140

I have a semi-related anecdote about surprises from devices. I use a CPAP. After a year, I went back to the doctor for a followup, and was asked to bring the SD card so they could review the data it collects. The device records the times and duration of use, various settings, and some metrics on breathing (apnea events, etc). I knew it recorded this stuff on an SD card. I brought the card to the appointment, but the…

I’m able to turn off the cell connection on my CPAP with airplane mode. I have a ResMed AirSense 10 that I got 4+ years ago and in the “MyOptions” section it has an “Airplane Mode” menu item which can be set to “On” to turn off the cellular connection. I agree with all that you said about it reporting home and compliance. I also found it surprising how strict it was to be compliant. I needed a 2 or 3 month uninterrup…

Yeah, I later learned about the airplane mode option. I would have used that, but at some point the screen on my CPAP (also a ResMed AirSense 10) smashed, so I was unable to engage airplane mode. I was able to get a copy of the ResScan software (intended for clinicians), which allowed me to adjust the pressure and other clinical settings, so I continued to use it (although it was incredibly inconvenient as it involved removing the SD card and using my PC). That's when I tried taking the machine apart and physically disconnecting the modem, but it wouldn't operate that way (and with no screen, I couldn't see if there was some simple dialog I had to dismiss to get it to work with no modem).

Really, though, I don't think any of this should apply, as I paid cash out of pocket for both the doctor visits and the CPAP machine itself. No one had any legitimate claim to the data.

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Post by dahfizz »

piva00 wrote: post #304
lotsofpulp wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the people for whom it would lower premiums would hand over the data, which results in the same thing. A health insurance company could offer me a $50 discount for a monthly blood test showing my sugar/cholesterol, and I would do it. Why should I pay for someone else’s cheese/alcohol/butter/sugar/bacon consumption. I assume the reason it is not currently implemented yet is because the cost of monthly blood tests…

> A health insurance company could offer me a $50 discount for a monthly blood test showing my sugar/cholesterol, and I would do it. Why should I pay for someone else’s cheese/alcohol/butter/sugar/bacon consumption. Because... You would be saving peanuts while someone else would have to pay much more (and sometimes drop their insurance completely) and that's a much worse result for society than you paying some 50 buc…

Insurance is just about the worst avenue to pursue your socialistic goals. Insurance is a numbers game, you will never be pursuasive with arguments about the greater good.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by matheusmoreira »

caymanjim wrote: post #140

I have a semi-related anecdote about surprises from devices. I use a CPAP. After a year, I went back to the doctor for a followup, and was asked to bring the SD card so they could review the data it collects. The device records the times and duration of use, various settings, and some metrics on breathing (apnea events, etc). I knew it recorded this stuff on an SD card. I brought the card to the appointment, but the…

Aren't CPAP usage patterns supposed to be medical information? That's frightening.
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