Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case

Post by Factorium » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 4:07 PM UTC

fxtentacle wrote: post #70

Reading this, I cannot help but imagine someone at Apple thinking to themselves "I wish we had granted Epic an exemption like we did with Netflix". The court proceedings and the documents that they were required to disclose were surely bad for PR and now it looks like they won't even keep the monetary benefits.

Post by belltaco » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 4:07 PM UTC

gigel82 wrote: post #48

This would be very good news if it sticks! But since Apple is known to refuse store submissions for opaque reasons, what would stop them from retaliating against apps that provide links to external payment processors with vague unrelated reasons? I would not put that past them. Also, I hope the anti-monopoly part gets picked up at the federal level; no one can deny Apple & Google are de-facto duopoly.

Post by gokhan » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 4:07 PM UTC

jeroenhd wrote: post #61

nullspace wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, agree. I think this would kill the App Store model. It's surprising that the stock only dipped by 2%. What am I missing?

Why would the app store model stop working? Paying through the app store has a direct benefit to usability. Before in app purchases the app store model worked fine. Even if the Epic lawsuit goes completely off the rails and Apple is forced to allow external app stores on iOS, they can still maintain a profitable app store if they provide the best experience to end users. Building an app store is very hard, and convin…

Post by maccard » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 4:07 PM UTC

madeofpalk wrote: post #25

yurishimo wrote: post #15

I'm really happy to see this moving forward, but I loathe the potential future landscape. Every fortune 500 is going to immediately pivot to their own IAP options which will make my life harder compared to Apple Pay. I'm hoping with this movement, tools like Stripe/Paddle will develop some better IAP flows to make it as easy as possible. Adding my card information to 50 different in-app wallets does not sound appeali…

Just to be clear here (and this fact doesn't really detract from your point) - Apple Pay is very different to Apple's In App Purchases. Apple Pay can be used anyhere, and it could still be used if a company rolls their own purchase system on their website that they link to from the app. Apple only gets a very minor % cut of Apple Pay transactions, from the bank, compared to Apple IAP where Apple gets 30% from the dev…

Post by dannyw » Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 4:08 PM UTC

danShumway wrote: post #43

This is somewhat surprising to me. I thought Epic had a reasonable chance of getting an eventual win on some points, or in getting enough attention that regulators stepped in. I also thought Apple had a pretty decent chance of winning. But I did not think that Epic had a particularly strong chance of getting an injunction like this. I hope that the takeaway people take from this is "it's tricky to guess what a judge…