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Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
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Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#72> permanently restrained and enjoined from prohibiting developers from including in their apps and their metadata buttons, external links, or other calls to action that direct customers to purchasing mechanisms, in addition to In-App Purchasing and (ii) communicating with customers through points of contact obtained voluntarily from customers through account registration within the app. This sounds like the same agre…
"purchasing mechanisms" is what's interesting... it's not just information.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#73Hopefully this will eventually lead to a day where users once again have full control over their devices. Android is a bit better, even if alternate app stores don't have the same system privileges as Google Play, but Apple devices are wholly authoritarian in what you can run on a device you supposedly own.
It's a case of choosing how you lose. Android certainly is more open and free in terms of what you can do with it, but you become Google's product and they will mine all meaningful data from your interactions.
What would be swell is an open device you fully control which doesn't spy on you. Turns out that cuts off most of the ways to make big bucks.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#74This will certainly get appealed and bogged down even more in the legal system, right? What are the chances this actually happens? And when? Secondly, this is such an easy way to increase your take by 20+% that I would imagine almost every publisher is going to be offering their own payments platform, not just the biggest ones like Epic.
Yeah, agree. I think this would kill the App Store model. It's surprising that the stock only dipped by 2%. What am I missing?
It's not going to end this quickly. Whichever side loses will keep going at it until they exhaust all legal paths.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#75>The decision concludes the first part of the battle between the two companies over Apple’s App Store policies and whether they stifle competition. Apple won on 9 of 10 counts but will be forced to change its App Store policies and loosen its grip over in-app purchases.
>Rogers said that Apple was not a monopolist and “success is not illegal.”
>“Given the trial record, the Court cannot ultimately conclude that Apple is a monopolist under either federal or state antitrust laws,” Rogers wrote.
Glad to see nobody knows what a monopoly is anymore. It's like the Grant administration all over again...
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#76I'm really happy to see this moving forward, but I loathe the potential future landscape. Every fortune 500 is going to immediately pivot to their own IAP options which will make my life harder compared to Apple Pay. I'm hoping with this movement, tools like Stripe/Paddle will develop some better IAP flows to make it as easy as possible. Adding my card information to 50 different in-app wallets does not sound appeali…
Another possibility is Apple drops its take to reflect the value its payment service provides (including the benefit to users you mention).
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#77Is this also true for Epic Games?
Why would anyone not circumvent all fees for any platform?
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#78This will certainly get appealed and bogged down even more in the legal system, right? What are the chances this actually happens? And when? Secondly, this is such an easy way to increase your take by 20+% that I would imagine almost every publisher is going to be offering their own payments platform, not just the biggest ones like Epic.
Yeah, agree. I think this would kill the App Store model. It's surprising that the stock only dipped by 2%. What am I missing?
> I think this would kill the App Store model.
It doesn't kill it much more then it killed the android store in the past when it wasn't (roughly, in practice) enforcing the same thing.
It's a revenue cut, but at least for the beginning it won't be a problem at all for apple, this might change at some point, but stocks have no reason to majorly drop now they still can do so in the future if it makes sense.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#79Note Epic also has to pay 30% damages. > On the counterclaim, in favor of Apple on the counterclaim for breach of contract. Epic Games shall pay (1) damages in an amount equal to (i) 30% of the $12,167,719 in revenue Epic Games collected from users in the Fortnite app on iOS through Epic Direct Payment between August and October 2020, plus (ii) 30% of any such revenue Epic Games collected from November 1, 2020 throug…
In what upside-down world is that justified? It seems like the judge is talking out of both sides of her mouth.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#80This will certainly get appealed and bogged down even more in the legal system, right? What are the chances this actually happens? And when? Secondly, this is such an easy way to increase your take by 20+% that I would imagine almost every publisher is going to be offering their own payments platform, not just the biggest ones like Epic.
Yeah, agree. I think this would kill the App Store model. It's surprising that the stock only dipped by 2%. What am I missing?
> What am I missing?
Google drive and Dropbox didn’t kill iCloud.