Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
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Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#2That’s it. The App Store is broken. Major win to Epic.
I’ll keep using apps and services that take funds via Apple Pay though. I trust Apple in this sense.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#3Personally, I am surprised at all the anti-competitive actions Apple has been able to get away with over the years:
Bundling the OS with hardware
Enforcing an App store
Dictating/Castrating Browser on mobile
And the list goes on.
I'm not saying this as a ding on Apple products, because I genuinely appreciate them, but I think at the same time Apple has resorted to creating roadblocks rather than innovating.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#4Wow, this is huge! We'll see how this holds up, but definitely seems like a turning point.
The effect of this order seems to be Apple can't prevent apps from telling customers about alternative in-app purchasing methods, which is a central issue of the case at hand in Epic vs Apple.
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#5Does the permanent injuction apply only to Epic, or does it apply to everyone?
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#6If someone has read the full ruling and is familiar enough with the case, what are the odds Apple appeals this - and if they do, is it likely they will win the appeal?
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#7That’s it. The App Store is broken. Major win to Epic. I’ll keep using apps and services that take funds via Apple Pay though. I trust Apple in this sense.
More choice is always a win for the customers. Customer can get to decide who is providing a better quality of service and go with them instead of the current situation of having one choice forced down their throats because the vendor decides that is whats best for the customer.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#8Personally, I am surprised at all the anti-competitive actions Apple has been able to get away with over the years: Bundling the OS with hardware Enforcing an App store Dictating/Castrating Browser on mobile And the list goes on. I'm not saying this as a ding on Apple products, because I genuinely appreciate them, but I think at the same time Apple has resorted to creating roadblocks rather than innovating.
>Dictating/Castrating Browser on mobile
Not just mobile, but iPad Pro and iPads too.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#9Personally, I am surprised at all the anti-competitive actions Apple has been able to get away with over the years: Bundling the OS with hardware Enforcing an App store Dictating/Castrating Browser on mobile And the list goes on. I'm not saying this as a ding on Apple products, because I genuinely appreciate them, but I think at the same time Apple has resorted to creating roadblocks rather than innovating.
> Bundling the OS with hardware
Is this really an issue? I agree Apple has been pretty shady but this is a facet of any hardware you buy today from any manufacturer. Now, preventing/obfuscating the install of _other_ OS software, I agree, total bullshit.
Re: Court issues permanent injunction in Epic vs. Apple case
#10> “The court cannot ultimately conclude that apple is a monopolist under either federal or state antitrust laws,” she writes in the ruling. “Nonetheless, the trial did show that apple is engaging in anti-competitive conduct under California’s competition laws.”
It's nice to see that you don't have to be a monopolist to be legally barred from anti-competitive behaviour. I hope this puts a permanent stop to all the thread on HN arguing one way or another whether Apple is a monopoly.