How Doctors die. It’s not like the rest of us (2016)

I'm suggesting the exactly opposite. That by having sex and getting pregnant you don't enter any contract and you don't automatically agree to take any responsibility. You can be punished for violating terms of something you voluntarily agreed to.

> why don't you assume the potential consequence of bringing a pregnancy to full term by voluntarily having sex, and not aborting in early terms?

If you made a voluntary decision to not abort in early terms then probably we can assume that.

>> if your child needs a kidney to survive you are not obliged to provide it > you aren't responsible for such a condition.

You might be. This might be a genetic birth defect (which is your responsibility for having sex by your count because it's one of the possible outcomes you are assumed to accept). Or you might have damaged you kid kidney with bad diet or herbal remedies or just beating the kid. And you still wouldn't be obliged to provide your kidney as a replacement. The point is, the law should never require of you the piece of your body.

> because you put them there? Can I lock you in a cage and claim no responsibility in getting you out?

Absolutely. However you'll be fully responsible for putting me there, if it was illegal.

Is a person legally responsible for the injury if he engages in skydiving but then gets injured because the pilot of his plane made a mistake or manufacturer technician of his plane didn't prepare it correctly?

Is a person walking at night legally responsible for getting mugged, because there's a known risk of getting mugged?

Is the responsibility for any action with known risk solely on the person undertaking the action?

And if this person is legally defined to be responsible should this person and only this person be corporeally punished for engaging with this risky action when it results in undesirable outcome for herself?

Since father is also equally responsible why not take out one of his organs he can live without as a punishment for the undesirable outcome? Or why not give him 100 lashes or something?

Why corporal punishment for a women but just a fine for a man?

Refusing women abortion is similarly barbaric. We just don't notice it.

In the end, she went into the bathroom, threw up a lot of blood, and never woke up. They didn’t do an autopsy, but the assumption was that the cancer had just gotten too widely distributed throughout her system.

But, since she had spent much of her adult life helping my dad with one or the other of his medical problems, and she had been an HR director at Norman Regional Hospital for many years, she did focus on trying to keep the best quality of life that she could, right up to the end.

The irony was that she had quit smoking thirty years earlier. It was her sister that did her in. Since the sister was in stage 4 of stomach cancer, they let her smoke in her hospital room. And my mom was the primary caregiver who slept in that room and was there pretty much 24x7. So, her second-hand smoke is what got my mom.

Definitely focus on quality of life. Whatever you’ve got left, you should try to make those your best days, weeks, months, or years yet.

I don't see how that tracks. You appear to be saying "if birth control fails", but birth control is known to be less than 100% effective the same way protective sports equipment is. Arguably you have a point if the birth control in question is defective.

> Is a person walking at night legally responsible for getting mugged, because there's a known risk of getting mugged?

> Is the responsibility for any action with known risk solely on the person undertaking the action?

So the sperm and egg are committing a crime now? They are not conscious actors, they don't have responsibility.

> Since father is also equally responsible why not take out one of his organs he can live without as a punishment for the undesirable outcome?

> Why corporal punishment for a women but just a fine for a man?

We already have child support to extract responsibility, in some form, from the father. I think it would be fair to say that money is not nearly as big a deal as the pregnancy, so yeah maybe there should be a different form of responsibility enforced. Taking an organ doesn't really accomplish anything though, because the purpose isn't to punish but to support the child and taking an organ does nothing for that.

> Refusing women abortion is similarly barbaric. We just don't notice it.

I don't agree. While I'm certainly uncomfortable with the idea of forcing people to endure pregnancy and its consequences against their will, if one takes the position that fetuses are people and deserve the same human rights as everyone else, and quite a lot of people do (though for the record I lean toward not agreeing on this), then I don't think the issue is quite as straight-forward as saying that the mother (or father for that matter, but obviously his situation is different) bears no responsibility towards the fetus.

> then probably we can assume that

then penalise non-medical late-term abortions?

> This might be a genetic birth defect (which is your responsibility for having sex by your count because it's one of the possible outcomes you are assumed to accept)

but acting in good faith, there's no formal responsibility to pass on good genes. An interesting concept, but moot in modern society. Also, it doesn't follow that "donating a kidney" fixes the issue in the same way "not aborting" would.

> or just beating the kid

In which case you would obviously be punished.

> you still wouldn't be obliged to provide your kidney as a replacement

My original comments agree this is true, but also state it doesn't mean you can't be punished/penalised.

> the law should never require of you the piece of your body

Then can I state your doctors can never retrieve/tamper with a piece of someone else's body, even if it exists inside your womb?

> However you'll be fully responsible for putting me there, if it was illegal

And I where a jailer who put you in there legally, but illegally left you there to rot? The legality of the first act would not change my initial responsibility to let you out.